When are our Klaws going to be worth anything ffs? When are we going to have about 5 seconds of iframe invincibility bullshit when we roll like SM? When are we going to have a modicum of a chance against a decent team of SM players? I'm not surprised we have this pity party at the moment, unless you play in some seriously cheesy ways, Orks just aren't competitive anymore. Here's some things I've noticed over the last few games; Our Klaws are still complete and utter shit. Our Rokkits are OK but the radius is temperamental and with a slight bit of lag they become awful/pointless. We have no real answer to grav apart from "shoot the enemy and hope they die first". At range that means we're fucked because.... ....Almost all of our ranged weapons are useless over long distances. We still have no answer to power sword spam. JPAs still fly out of Dbash... ...Infact, I see marines of all types rolling out of it. Marines cover more distance in a sword swing than we do with a sprint attack. Our Dbash is far too slow. The WAAAGH! is a fucking curse rather than a boon. TL,DR; we have the weakest shit of the other factions and it's starting to show in our dwindling community.
We win, we just need to be co-ordinated (Because Orks do that, apparently.) And use all of the four AV at our disposal. I have little trouble in melee, aside from Dbashing JPA's and fist marines. I also don't ever use the Klaw save for testing in the Garrison. The Shoota with the- off the top of my head- textured grip and heavy barrel (Compensator if you prefer) Isn't half bad. I primarilly use a controller but with the Shoota and the Big Shoota, you really, really need the mouse to be anything near accurate at range, and just fire it in bursts. (Not the actual burst setting though.)
The reason I play this game is because I can play an ork from 40K. But here's a "corny" reason as well, but you cannot deny it being true: Us orks have to stick together. Yeah, we're in a bad ways and da amazing WAAGGGHHH!, that we cherish in other 40K and Fantasy settings of Warhammer, fails us half the time in this game (defense ftw). The weapons don't really get better unless you unlock so many loot boxes I feel like I'm playing a taxes game. We're no longer the Orks who want to smash and krump, but instead we just use cheap tacktics like spamming rokkits instead or a propa gud fight. Our animations, which have always been silly in games BUT NOT THIS SILLY, are so misleading to us AND the people we play against. So much to worry about, I don't really know where to begin. WE NEED MORE DAKKKA! However, lads, we're Orks. When people get into this game whether it be a christmas present, birthday present, 60% (lol) sale, whatever the reason, ... us Ork players have to make sure those new boys we get are seeing the best we Orks can put out! We gotta stick togethas. WAAAGGGHHHH!
In my experiance from RT(rouge trader) and OW(only war), orks are funny and dangerous at the same time BUT the main theme is: get stuck with the boyz and fire DAKKA in general direction. It's not the orks who decide how dangerous are they in this game but the players.
I'll admit, I did have a period of time where I felt like giving up on this game forever. Then I hit the same swooping hawk three times with a rokkit midair in one match. hang onta dat feelin ladz View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k8craCGpgs
The ork community makes me want to not play orkz more than anything. They've fallen long and hard since when I played with them on chaos. The shining moment of stupidity tonight from an ork killing me on a ticket map final defense during a waaggghh defense for "being shit".
That's part of the reason I'm taking a break from the game.... I was close to just writing it off and I honestly don't want to do that I wanna give it a fair chance to mature without just writing it off because frustrations with balance and current dev decisions since there's always time for those to be backtracked on. The game isn't horrible but the balance is making it horrible. One of the major issues I have is the penetration/toughness system and how incredibly imbalanced it is between factions. The orks for the most part are posterboys of the 80 penetration weapons while the lsm/csm are 140 pen and eldar are somewhere between depending on the class played. You would think we would be low penetration but more damage but contrary to this we are low damage low penetration when you compare all the weapons. Our melee gets trumped by power sword/maul Our ranged gets trumped by plasma weapons Our AV is the only thing that is on par and unique and asymmetrically balanced properly. The big shoota is also one of my huge major grips... I shouldn't have to explain why it's so underwhelming vs equivalents or vs the standard shoota. The standard shoota actually has better damage/accuracy when you mod it properly and the fact that it's only 20 penetration over the standard shoota it's just not enough to counter the -2 damage it does per shot. I just hate EVERYTHING about the big shoota from its delay to fire when not aiming and the recoil there's just so many things that just make me wanna scream at the devs about it. Another thing is the extreme lazy art direction of ork weapons.... All the melee weapons are literally just a stick with a blade or wedge or something on all the ranged weapons have the same but of the gun and clip sections I mean shit look at the rokkit launcha it's using a shoota body..... They reuse our weapon models to the point it's really lazy and just feels bad. This brings me to the relic weapons well... weapon we STILL hadn't got our looted 'umie bolter. The golden fixa looks nothing like the art work then you look at the other relic weapons added for the other factions and it looks just like it... It's like they just threw the golden fixa into the game with a basic bitch model threw a little color on it and said finished. The general shape is the only thing that fits the concept art. It pisses me off. Another thing is the orks are the only faction right now that is missing weapon types that were SOLD FOR CASH pre launch. The splash burna *plasma equivalent* and the kombi weapons are MAJOR weapon types that are completely absent the devs refuse to answer any questions regarding them and have actually focused more on giving marines grav weapons... It's demoralizing. Everything the devs have been doing for the orks demoralizes me it's like they would rather them just be a joke faction. I find the community for the orks the only thing that makes me wanna keep playing but the glaring issues we suffer from along with the fact the devs neglect orks just makes it very hard to not just give the game a negative review and remove the game from my life all together... As I said though I like the ork community and since it's the only 40k game I get to play a ork that isn't a rts makes me pause and decide to just break and give the game time to mature. In all honesty though after all the streams and stuff it really seems the devs have much more love for the other 3 factions but mainly the LSM.. They are clearly polishing the hell out of their balls and giving them everything they want and it's just killing any morale I had left.
I usually main as LSM but I took the weekend to play my level 3 Ork. The LSM arnt too bad when it comes to balance with the Ork, at least the Orks have a chance to win. I didn't have much issue with the Power Klaw and managed to kill many LSM with it many times. I don't usually use the Power Fist with my builds so I cant really compare the two. LSM are SALTY! Wow I cant believe some of the stuff these new players rant about. About a quarter of the games that I played was against Eldar and Orks lost every time, it wasn't even a challenge for the Eldar to wipe the floor with Orks. These new Ork players are horrible! I died more from my fellow ork players than from the opponents! So even though I posted and rant about Eldar being OP it could simply be that the Orks that I played with are horrible players. They have no issue shooting you in the back for the kill, they act like there is no TK damage in this game.
We found another one. http://forum.eternalcrusade.com/threads/forgrims-heavy-bolter-feedback.49497/page-188#post-1367420
