Also right now HB is considerably more powerful than Autocannon in all situations. HB should definitely have more spread to compensate.
You are so right nerf the last weapon making LSM better than Orks and let Chaos and Eldar play the game alone... Sure, LSM and Orks will get their ticket for the show. That will absolutely not be boring.
I agree the spread should not be reduced as much when bracing but it should apply to all HB's and their equivs. Matches would be a lot more fun in this way like they were in the days before Super Duper sniping took over. Saying that.. Something would also need to be done about the MoS thing that reduces spread else that would just be the go to then and nothing for chaos would change.
Ork here. The heavy bolter is the bane of our existence. It's not fun facing a team comprised of about 80% of the same loadout.
We would love to play something else, I tell you, I swear you but at the time Orks and LSM are the same, weak factions. We have the HB and... That's it. I'm not fair we have nice heal that allow our enemy to kill us multiple times.
Thats a really terrible arguement. "Lets leave the game broken because if we fix it then my faction will do worse" Apparently doing good and winning to you is all that matters so camp away sitting near your spawn braced cheesing away. You only hurt yourself in the long run when you use HB, the equivalent to being a max whore in planetside 2. It's going to be really sad for any new players who see all the HB spam and join in, only to have no clue how to play and probably quit when they nerf it. It's not like this is the first time HB has been like this either, at the very start of the test it was in the same exact shape and it wasn't nearly as spammed - the map back then was much less favorable.. They know how bad it is right now, and they've probably already decided on how to change it and now were just waiting.
It's not supposed to be a WIN button. There should be buffs to bolters etc. cause all around weapons are not balanced.
Where to begin with? Personally I play tac and JPA, and I'm getting killed by anything on the map without any chance for me to counteract. My point is that HB isn't OP, you got the same in CSM and nobody bother you with it. Why? Because chaos has a lot of other toys to play with, and most of the best toy. That isn't either a call to nerf CSM. LSM has two major difficulty actually: 1/ a player base that are playing COD on EC instead of playing COD on COD. 2/ a fucking lake of anything useful as far as weapons are concerned. Maybe the latest is an issue with sync, lag or any other technical problem. But I doubt. We play in unit with dedicated role and not spawning HB all the game long, we try strategic advance, change our attack angle, change our targets but all in all we ended the same with an unlimited roll of loses game. You are playing to win!!?? Because you don't? You okay to get your ass kicked? Lose all your game? Have no fun being butchered by DR when falling from the sky like rage incarnate? Take two front knife attack by SH and die sadly because yours didn't even pierce his armour? If you take away from us any tactical play by not being able to compete the last resort is to take what you can and grind points. I wish our game could be different but truly at last HB players kill something. Right now EC stand no more for eternal crusade but for Eldar & Chaos EDIT In fact as guild member I play any class my chapter master/captain/squad leader ask for. And to answer the next post we know no fear but we also have brain. It is something to be ready to give your life at any time it is an other to jump around naked in a mine field
1.My point is that HB isn't OP, you got the same in CSM and nobody bother you with it. Why? Because chaos has a lot of other toys to play with, and most of the best toy. That isn't either a call to nerf CSM. LSM has two major difficulty actually: That's Anecdotal really, I see LSM both and CSM cry about HB all the time. Depends on how your team is at the time.Really if you don't think its even a little OP then nothing I say is going to change that, your just going to continue forum warrioring your point across. (I see tons of CSM HB spam so I don't know what game your playing) In terms of toys to play with, what exactly does CSM have over LSM weapons wise? I play JPA mainly atm and its nearly the same on both factions imo. The only major difference between the two is that the Sorcerer is alot stronger than the Apothecary, but they've shown their twitches and Q&A's that they know this to be true and are working on it. 2. Maybe the latest is an issue with sync, lag or any other technical problem. But I doubt. The servers have been completely shitting the bed recently to an extreme, I really wouldn't rule out that. Hit detection, lagging, warping, pauses, ghost attacks. I've seen every kind of issue possible. 3. We play in unit with dedicated role and........the rest Still none of what you said justifies HB and most braced weapons preforming so well. It honestly sounds like you guys group up together and just do whatever you want that you think is tacticool with no regard to what your pugs are doing then die and blame other shit. Like every planetside outfit ever.