Keep it as it is, they're meant to be light weights that disrupt the enemy. If you charge in with a jpa you deserve to get dakka in the face. Flank or attack from higher places where players don't usually suspect ya. Ya gotta be a sneaky git with the jpa, none of this PF tanky bs. JPA's are a support class, adapt. AND FOR ALL DOSE STORMBOY'S OUT DER, BE SURE TO WHAAAGH AS YOU SNEEK UP ON SOME GIT, YA HEAR!!
Just because you didn't get the answer you wanted doesn't mean the thread should be closed. I am all for buffing JPA, but not to make them as durable as a tactical marine.
You're giving up too quick there, sweetheart I'm actually surprised how many people voted 'No' here lol. Like, srsly, that many people are in favor of destroying a class just cus they have a hard time dealing with it or something? JPA armor doesn't have to be EXACTLY the same as GA armor, i see why i a lot of people have a beef with that, but Jesus Christ it doesnt have to be below 100 either, its fucking retarted. Say, if it was about 20 points less that GA armor, i'd be okay with it. Plus the ability the equip armor-boosting options. With or without those, GAs will be tankier both ways PLUS they can cap(or equip shields or etc etc), but at least the JPA would have the ability to do their job right back instead of having to hide in the corners and catwalks in order to stalk out loners. Same goes for Sorcs. Bringing their armor up to a reasonable level aint gonna let them run in the open or excel at melee against specialists anyways, but at least they won't be forced to stay way behind the frontlines healbotting the fuck out of their playtime.
No. Health and Armour pools need upping across the board for all classes, but the relative differences need to remain. The high mobility classes gain significant advantage in survivability from that mobility. If you have the same armour and health for all classes, regardless of mobility, those that have better avoidance by virtue of higher mobility naturally have higher survival.
People remember the days of Raptor/JPA Fist spam all too well. Even this meta with amassed tacticals, endless meatgrinders and low TTK is preferable to those dark days.
The thing is, I'm wondering if the element that cripple THIS MUCH Jump Assaults isn't the fact that boosting reveals them on the map. I mean, You can't flank anyone if you're seen. Yes that's a fixed idea, but I have to say it never really occurred to me since my hawk wasn't suffering from the same symptoms... But now I do. At first, I'd like the devs to remove the "auto-spot" on the map when a jump unit uses the unique feat of their class that should help them but actually gives them away. (And I mean ALL Jump units: JPA, Raptor, Stormboy, Hawk) If you have a keen ear, you can hear a JPA/Raptor/Stormboy(/Even a Hawk!) boosting/taking off from 40 feet away. From that moment you just have to keep an eye to the sky for an airborne unit. Currently it's "I hear a JPA aaaaaand he's there 30m at 7 o'clock! Thanks map." -> Consequence: Surprise effect ruined, and you're suiciding in a rain of bullets.
That's not why I want it closed but since you mentioned it, it is my thread I can ask for it to be closed if I want. I'm just personally done with it now, if you guys want to sit here and rub your nubs together discussing potential fixes for JPA's and how you "Would want them buffed but not like that" that's cool and dandy but we have threads about that. This was for my suggested quick-fix, nothing more nothing less. Since it has been publicly rejected the thread is now moot, people don't like it and there is no reason to keep it up anymore. So again I don't want it closed because I didn't get my way, I want it closed because the thread is pointless now. Had it been received positively it could have stayed open for more discussion so the devs could see it. Since it wasn't, why have it? Stop trying to shame me Eldritch when you don't even get my motives. I'm going to ask you nicely to never call me sweetheart again. Cool? Only my Mother calls me sweetheart. Rest that you said is cool though.
That's the issue between you and me Eldritch, you feel that I need to explain myself. I have started to get really tired of explaining everything even when it's completely obvious if people would just open their eyes. Thread is about a suggested change People don't like the change Author asks for it to be closed This is all taught in High School. The ability to read between the lines, simple reading comprehension.
You suggested a fix. People disagreed and suggested alternatives. You say "Damn, alrighty guys have it your way.Keep in mind I'm 100% A-Ok with also keeping JPA's garbage. They are free kills.Enjoy." The discussion is still on the topic of buffing JPA, it has not gone off-topic.
