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How i tired from these players

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Konok0, Oct 30, 2016.

  1. Skullsplitta Jawrippa Subordinate

    The thing is that matchmaking sucks in it's current implementation. To prevent experienced players to roflstompl newbies, devs should introduce some kind of ranking system, and make matchmaking use this system to organize players based on their current rank, xp, guild membership and so on. Maybe they did this, i don't know,msay be it's not working because the player base of ork and eldar factions are so small currently, that they consist mostly from clan members and experienced dedicated ork/eldar players. So, when it comes to fight orks/eldar vs sm, orks/eldar vs csm, most of the times it would be a fight between guild mates and pugs.
  2. Skullsplitta Jawrippa Subordinate

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  3. KHETTI Well-Known Member

    See we had this argument way way back in MWO and the opposite turned out to be true, and it will be the very same here, but then EC is making all the same mistakes MWO has in the past so ive seen where it leads.
    Not saying to nerf guilds, i'm saying organized groups should be matched against organized groups, that is unless you all think groups v randoms is competitive, and any group who loses to a bunch of randoms should be embarrassed.
    Anyway seems i've hit a nerve with one group who spent the last 3 games exclusively hunting me, ignoring my team mates to death blob at me with their l33t rmb spam.
    Apparently they want me to stop playing lol.
  4. Mongobeef Mongobeef Subordinate

    And are you seriously using MWO as an example of anything? MWO has the potential of a single mech being able to take and hold against an entire stack of "clans". Add the the other issues that game has and you are holding up the fact that clans exist there and the problems MWO has...aren't the same and we aren't going that direction.

    And I'm saying that random players will never get a match of more than 5 people on either side if you only put organized groups vs each other. This isn't fucking LoL. There isn't ranked. And as of currently there is really nothing that winning a match does. It moves a little bar on a bunch of pictures...to what effect? Also how to you suggest they organize that CONSIDERING YOU CAN HAVE PUBLIC WARPARTIES. Or did you just forget that that was a feature. Just cause people aren't using it doesn't mean it is a Clan's fault.

    And embarrassed or not. Clan stacks have been repeatedly beaten by random groups. You seem to argue that clans are only just stomping randoms, but they aren't.

    Maybe stop being caught alone? I mean that's pretty easy to do. Just work WITH people. And I doubt there is any spooky cabal hunting you in game cause of crap you've said on the forums. But please keep playing the victim. I'm sure that'll encourage people to listen to your side of things. And just because you can't work with random people...hey that's not my problem nor is it anybody else's. Learn to adapt.
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  5. KHETTI Well-Known Member

    Your statement about MWO makes absolutely zero sense, MWO has a hell of a lot less issues than EC does, its actually somewhat quite well balanced unlike EC.
    And yes, plenty of mistakes that were made in MWO's early development are mirrored here.
    Funny how other games with low player populations are able to match groups and randoms separately fine.
    BTW i can guarantee you that guilds aren't the majority of the playerbase, cos if they are this game is done.
    And of course your free to believe or not believe what i said, but its true and rather hilarious, i've experienced far worse when i played MW4 back in the day.
    Your also making a lot of assumptions about how i play, and you know what they say about those who assume...
  6. Alexandrix Alexandrix Arkhona Vanguard

    +1 for the humorous comic strip
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  7. Dude, you will never get kicked from TKing by vehicle explosion, unless you're both the most efficient and most unlucky vehicle hunter in the game, i have a habit of always executing melee guys who make me lose xp and never got kicked.

    But this is bullshit anyways, vehicles explosions should not trigger TK penalty.
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  8. Cath Cath Arkhona Vanguard

    I would highly recommended you Vulcan Melta, 3,5 ailment till 10m is something worth of;)
  9. Mongobeef Mongobeef Subordinate

    That requires me to play LSM regularly. And I'd rather not hate myself :p

    Man are you telling me that a game released in September 17, 2013 is more balanced than a game "released" in September 23, 2016? Man it is almost like 3 years was enough time for them to work out any and all kinks they had. Also when you want to reply to somebody. Use the damn quote function and actually reply to them. Not this passive aggressive flat reply to the thread. Cause you could be potentially talking to anybody...I'm not even sure you aren't talking to yourself.

    But now MWO is just fine like you said. So if they make some of MWO's early mistakes then they should turn out just fine too then right? Cause MWO is a niche IP and that company was fairly unknown and made some massive balance mistakes early on.

    I'd love to take the time to point you to the livestream showing the player base at the time and the numbers of people in clans and not. But you've got your mind set and any amount of empirical evidence won't sway you but I'll toss it in there just for you
    View: https://youtu.be/OE_t384oJbU?t=1274
    I even put it at the correct point for you. Make sure you click the link not the embed video, that'll be a quick and easy test to see if you even read this properly. That guild members play more. And considering the size of the PG guild alone? Yeah Guilds make up the majority of people playing right now.

    You really gotta stop using Mechwarrior comparisons here. These aren't the same games. And again, you are missing the point. A good mech pilot can wreck an enemy team. Which isn't the case here. One person isn't going to win a match for people.

    No, I don't really. Cause you are making a lot of assumptions about the state of this game and that somehow magically Clans are the biggest issues this game has. So how about you try playing with people instead of just whining about a clan stacks.
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  10. KHETTI Well-Known Member

    MWO closed beta build was in far far better shape than EC is now, and the difference between MWO and EC is that MWO actually had/has a decent player population, even after losing a shit ton of players due to their mistakes, EC can't afford to do that.

    A good mechwarrior can make a huge difference in a match simply due to no respawn, (but that's purely dependent on the player and what queue they are playing in, there actually isn't all that many players who are capable of carrying to that level, and certainly not in a grouped environment, i mean you are talking about a entire team of 12 mechs, i haven't seen that done by anyone in 4 years of play) a group of 4 players, while mixed in with randoms was shown to completely unbalance matches, hence the reason groups ended up in a separate queue. (hell i remember the days of 12 mans v randoms, there was a lot of upset players back then)
    I also understand this game has respawns so you'd imagine it wouldn't make much difference, but i regularly see players who do in fact carry their team to victory.

    I'm not saying Guilds/grouped players are the biggest issue this game has, not at all, but i personally feel group sizes are very much an issue an regularly cause major balance issues in games.
    When after 3 -4 minutes one team is just AFKing in spawn or people start leaving because its all one sided, there's a problem.

    I didn't watch the video, and i have no intention to either, but i'm going to presume it confirms you are correct and guilds make up the majority of player numbers.
    And if that's the case, then it's pretty much game over.

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