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How campaigns work

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by NoahWard, Jan 23, 2017.

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  1. Atarius Atarius First Blood!

    My (sarcastic) point is, that they need to fix the engine problems as soon as possible. Maybe not with MORE programmers, just with people who know their stuff and get things done.
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  2. Gazrick Gazrick Well-Known Member

    Well isn't this a surprise, people aren't happy about the current iteration of campaigns.

    It's funny, those of you complaining about the campaigns in their current iteration complained the hardest that they weren't in at all. You literally whinged and cried that you didn't have them. Now you have them you are complaining that they aren't good enough. I guess some people will never be pleased.

    It's a first pass to ensure that the system works as intended without breaking the game. Something the majority of the vocal negative posters on here have been campaigning (heh, geddit?) for since they were supposed to be released around Xmas.

    Since it's in and the game works, they can start to expand on it as time goes on. You don't make an omelette without first breaking eggs, then mixing with other ingredients, then cooking and so on. The same applies here, once the system is deemed stable no doubt they will add to it.

    I know that some of you are intelligent enough to work this out yourselves. I also know that the devs have said this repeatedly in the past. So I can only surmise from this that some of you who are complaining are doing so merely for complaining's sake or you are ignorant.
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  3. Noah Ward NoahWard Game Designer

    Correct but the faction RTC reward will work to buy anything for either of those subfactions.
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  4. Zhull Zhull Well-Known Member

    I think my point went over your head.
    I'll try again, the points you mentioned are small details in regards to the much bigger picture.
    Things like 'weapon X is OP!' or customisations are relatively easily dealth with.
    I'm looking at a much larger picture: the game as it is now and for the foreseeable future is pointless.
    Let's say balance gets fixed, its just absolutely right, everybody is superhappy with it (lol imagine that).
    Okay so now what?
    We fight arena matches, cap point A, cap point B, win a match, lose a match....and what?
    Another notch on the 'çampaigns' bar, and a tile on the 'interactive world map' changes colour.
    WOW.

    EC needs to make a clear choice about what it wants to be: a no nonsense online multiplayer shooter? or something bigger more mmo-esque?

    no nonsense multiplayer shooter: speed gameplay up, more gore, more pewpew, more explosions, have terminators and eventually dreadnoughts stamping around, destructable objects etc, go full Michael Bay with that shit! awesome!

    or go mmo-esque? make hubs meaningful where people socialise, come looking to join warparties, show off their swag gear etc.
    Have a clear storyline, have a meaningful depiction of the world, have a choice of different goals for players to persue, sense of ownership and investment into the war and their faction of choice.

    Right now it is in between, it wants to take from both approaches and it fails at every attempt:

    maps
    gameplay
    speed
    type(s) of matches

    IMO it has to make a choice and stop trying to be eclectic, borrowing features from different genres.

    As long as this larger issue isnt adressed, there is no point in horsing around with balance, and you keep seeing stupid shit like 'campaigns' that arent campaigns but more achievement counters a la CoD.

    To me, THAT is the core of the issue with EC.
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  5. Octave Octave First Blood!

    No, we have nothing, that's why people are complaining.

    To pull a simple weekly mission and to give it the fancy, pompous name of "campaign", that's just taking people for chumps.

    That's no campaign.
  6. Aed Aedwynn Curator

    It's a station!

    FFS, anyone who put at least a bit of effort to investigate knew that first few campaigns would be very bones to see how system works. But you want everything and right now.
  7. Zhull Zhull Well-Known Member

    FFS people, what kinda noobs are you all?
    Don't you know the first thing about gaming?
    Whenever you buy a game after full release, you need to do your own research to see what core features are yet to be implemented!!!
    GAWDDDD

    This should be both the forums and the game's unofficial anthem.
    It's what I hear in my mind by reading some of these posts.

    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjedLeVGcfE
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  8. Octave Octave First Blood!

    Months and months of wait, that's being impatient? It's everything right now? :rolleyes:

    Please, if you want to lick boots or kiss some asses, do so, enjoy yourself, but don't try to drag me down the ground with you alright?
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  9. Nari Nari Deacon

    thanks for the reply. Cheers!
  10. Zhull Zhull Well-Known Member

    Noah had to read over and blatantly ignore a shitload of posts with valid criticism, you better be grateful indeed.
    hehe
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