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Having seen it up close and personal, it's not a bad adaptation at least in terms of miniatures. The Cataphractii and older marks of power armour have translated well for the most part and get across the look of an older age, and the leaders on each side look pretty good. That said, some of the fine details have been lost on the plastic miniatures and having handled the Contemptor personally, it's a pale shadow of its Forge World versions. It looks fine to start with, but once you hold it you can see the corners cut to put it all together, looking more solidly blocky than the resin cast versions. That and, to be completely honest, a lot of the models lack the same dynamic poses the Forge World armies had.

Certainly not saying it's bad by any stretch of the imagination, but personally it seems that Forge World still have the edge in terms of overall quality.

KillboFraggins, Nov 7, 2015

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So. It is up on pre-order, along with other things.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XboWz0UeKvQ

The Horus Heresy: Betrayal At Calth, £95.
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Horus-Heresy-Betrayal-at-Calth-ENG

It is the 31st Millennium. The galaxy is aflame.

Enlightenment and knowledge are sundered; the Age of Darkness has begun in earnest. The Emperor’s glorious vision for humanity lies in ruins as his favoured son, Horus, has rejected his father’s light and embraced the corrupting tendrils of Chaos. Civil war has broken out amongst the Space Marines - once brothers, fighting side by side as the galaxy’s protectors, they are now a force divided. Some remain loyal to the Emperor, others have sided with the Warmaster. Nothing is certain, everything is at stake, and the Imperium is split down the middle…

The Horus Heresy: Betrayal At Calth is a fantastic standalone boxed game of claustrophobic tunnel combat, set during the Word Bearers’ invasion of the Ultramarine world of Calth. Emphasising fast-paced squad-based combat during six exciting missions, it allows players to choose their side and command a force of beautifully detailed Citadel miniatures in a brutal war for survival, during one of the iconic battles of the Horus Heresy.

Inside the box, you’ll find:
An impressive selection of detailed Citadel miniatures, including;
- A Captain in Terminator Armour and a Dark Apostle;
- A Contemptor Dreadnought, armed with a choice of multi-melta or twin assault cannon;
- Five Cataphractii Terminators, with weapon options including combi bolters, power fists, lightning claws, chain fists, power swords, heavy flamers and grenade harnesses;
- Thirty Legion Tactical Space Marines in MK4 armour, with a huge selection of weapons and custom features, including bolters, missile launchers, heavy bolters, chainswords, power swords, power fists, plasma pistols, lightning claw blades, combi flamer, melta and plasma guns, a melta bomb and a set of combat blades! These miniatures also include ammo packs, holstered bolt pistols and a selection of frag and krak grenades.
- Four double-sided boards, beautifully printed on thick card stock, representing the caverns under Calth where the desperate struggle between the Ultramarines and Word Bearers took place;
- A forty-eight page book, featuring an introduction to the battle on Calth, comprehensive rules and scenarios for playing the game, an overview of the Word Bearers and Ultramarines legions and a showcase of the included miniatures;
- Forty-two command and reference cards, used to introduce effects and events into the game;
- Twelve dice and an array of markers used in-game.

The included miniatures can be painted to represent any Space Marine chapter with any weapon combination you like - you’re not bound by the game at all! This is truly an exciting box game - get involved in the cataclysmic events that almost destroyed the Imperium and set the galaxy on its course of decay.
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The Horus Heresy: The Honoured, £18.
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Horus-Heresy-The-Honoured-Hardback

THE STORY
In the immediate aftermath of the Word Bearers’ attack on Calth, survivors from both sides were driven into the subterranean arcology shelters by the tortured Veridian star. While their primarch Roboute Guilliman had planned for many seemingly unthinkable eventualities, the Ultramarines now face a new war in the underworld – could Steloc Aethon, renowned captain of ‘the Honoured 19th’ Company, be the one to lead them to ultimate victory over the traitors? Perhaps, if he can master his own bitter desire for vengeance…

READ IT BECAUSE
See the Ultramarines from the new boxed game 'The Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth' brought to life as the destruction of Calth forces them into desperate battle in the Underworld war. The undisputed hero is a Terminator sergeant who wades through liquid coolant and forces himself to his very limits to defeat the foe...

ABOUT THIS BOOK
192-page hardback novel
'The Honoured' is also available along with 'The Unburdened' in 'Betrayal at Calth', the Limited Edition box set. Including both volumes with black gilt-edged pages in a uniquely numbered slipcase with gold foiling and an iconic depiction of the heroes of the novels clashing in a desperate duel for dominance, exclusively from blacklibrary.com.
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The Horus Heresy: The Unburdened, £18.
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Horus-Heresy-The-Unburdened-Hardback

THE STORY
Long considering themselves persecuted by the rest of the Imperium, the apostles of the XVIIth Legion have courted sedition, betrayal and even open heresy for decades. But for Kurtha Sedd of the Third Hand Chapter, the Word Bearers’ assault on Calth has proven… troubling. Drawn into the haunted shadows of the planet’s underworld, the Chaplain and his devout brethren must now put aside all other concerns and continue to wage war against the Ultramarines, no matter the ultimate cost.

READ IT BECAUSE
The Word Bearers side of the events from 'The Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth' sees Dark Apostle Kurtha Sedd seeking revenge on an old friend. But the star of the show is the insane Contemptor Dreadnought Sor Gharax, whose point of view sections will give you a whole new perspective on being trapped inside a walking tank for eternity.

ABOUT THIS BOOK
192-page hardback novel 'The Unburdened' is also available along with 'The Honoured' in 'Betrayal at Calth', the Limited Edition box set. Including both volumes with black gilt-edged pages in a uniquely numbered slipcase with gold foiling and an iconic depiction of the heroes of the novels clashing in a desperate duel for dominance, exclusively from blacklibrary.com.
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There are some bundles available.
From GW:
The Horus Heresy: Betrayal At Calth Books Collection, £61.
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Horus-Heresy-Betrayal-at-Calth-Books-Bundle-ENG

A collected bundle of three books that will bring you up to speed with the cataclysmic events that occur alongside our fantastic new boxed game, The Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth!

The Honoured - written by Rob Sanders, this 192-page hardback novel details the events occurring immediately after the Word Bearers’ brutal assault on Calth. Steloc Aethon, renowned captain of the Ultramarines ‘Honoured 19th’, must attempt to put aside his thirst for vengeance if he is to lead his brothers to victory over the traitors.

The Unburdened - a 192-page hardback novel written by David Annandale, this is the tale of the Word Bearers’Third Hand Chapter as they are drawn into the underworld of Calth, there to wage unrelenting war against the Ultramarines, no matter the ultimate cost.

Macragge’s Honour - a spectacular hardback graphic novel clocking in at 128 pages, written by Dan Abnett and Neil Roberts, detailing the eponymous flagship’s pursuit of a Word Bearers’ battle-barge in the aftermath of the attack on Calth.
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The Horus Heresy: Betrayal At Calth Story Collection, £156.
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Horus-Heresy-Betrayal-at-Calth-Story-Collection-ENG

New to the Horus Heresy? This is a fantastic bundle that will net you the exciting new boxed game The Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth and a set of three books that expand upon the events leading up to and surrounding this dark time.

Three books are included:
The Honoured - written by Rob Sanders, this 192-page hardback novel details the events occurring immediately after the Word Bearers’ brutal assault on Calth. Steloc Aethon, renowned captain of the ‘Honoured 19th’, must attempt to put aside his thirst for vengeance if he is to lead his brothers to victory over the traitors.

The Unburdened - a 192-page hardback novel written by David Annandale, this is the tale of the Word Bearers’ Third Hand Chapter as they are drawn into the underworld of Calth, there to wage unrelenting war against the Ultramarines, no matter the ultimate cost.

Macragge’s Honour - a spectacular hardback graphic novel clocking in at 128 pages, written by Dan Abnett and Neil Roberts, detailing the eponymous flagship’s pursuit of a Word Bearers’ battle-barge in the aftermath of the attack on Calth.

As well as these, you’ll receive the incredible Horus Heresy:Betrayal at Calth boxed game - this includes a huge array of plastic Heresy-era Space Marine miniatures:
a Captain in Terminator Armour and a Dark Apostle;
a Contemptor Dreadnought, armed with a choice of multi-melta or assault cannon;
five Cataphractii Terminators, with weapon options including combi bolters, power fists, lightning claws, chain fists, power swords, heavy flamers and grenade harnesses;
Thirty Legion Tactical Space Marines in MK4 armour, with a huge selection of weapons and custom features, including bolters, missile launchers, heavy bolters, chainswords, power swords, power fists, plasma pistols, lightning claw blades, combi flamer, melta and plasma guns, a melta bomb and a set of combat blades! These miniatures also include ammo packs, holstered bolt pistols and a selection of frag and krak grenades;
Four double-sided boards, beautifully printed on thick card stock, representing the caverns under Calth where the desperate struggle between the Ultramarines and Word Bearers took place;
A forty-eight page book, featuring an introduction to the battle on Calth, comprehensive rules and scenarios for playing the game, an overview of the Word Bearers and Ultramarines legions and a showcase of the included miniatures;
Forty-two command and reference cards, used to introduce effects and events into the game;
Twelve dice and an array of markers used in-game.
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From FW:
The Legion's Armoured Might, £450.
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/The-Legion-s-Armoured-Might

Buy this bundle now and you could win one of five Fire Raptor Gunships!
Buy any bundle that includes The Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth by 30th November 2015 and you'll be entered into a prize draw to win one of five Fire Raptor Gunships! CLICK HERE for terms and conditions.
This product will be despatched with Free Express Shipping.

The super-human warriors of the Legiones Astartes rely not only on their gene-enhanced bodies and minds and their training and experience. They are supported by devastating war machines and armoured carriers hardy enough to deliver Space Marines to the heart of battle.

This exceptional bundle makes a perfect start for any Legion. The models included allow you to dive straight into the cataclysmic warfare of the Horus Heresy.

Included are thirty-eight plastic models; a Praetor in Cataphractii Terminator Armour; a Legion Chaplain; a Contemptor Dreadnought, armed with a Close Combat Fist with inbuilt combi-bolter and a choice of multi-melta or Kheres assault cannon; a squad of five Cataphractii Terminators including a Sergeant, with weapon options including combi-bolters, power fists, lightning claws, chain fists, power swords, a heavy flamer and a grenade harness; and Thirty Legion Tactical Space Marines in MK4 armour, with a huge selection of weapons and custom features, including bolters, missile launchers, heavy bolters, chainswords, power swords, power fists, plasma pistols, lightning claws, plasma guns, melta guns, flamers, combi-weapons, combat blades, ammo packs, holstered bolt pistols and a selection of grenades. These thirty Space Marines make perfect Legion Tactical, Veteran Tactical, Legion tactical Support or Legion Heavy Support Squads.

To transport your Space Marines across any battlefield, this bundle includes three Legion Deimos Pattern Rhinos, versatile transports each capable of carrying ten warriors into battle, and a Land Raider Armoured Proteus, an ancient and venerable design of Land Raider armed with a pair of twin-linked lascannon and a twin linked heavy bolter with the transport capacity to carry even the bulky Cataphractii Terminators. To appraise your foes of the true might of the Legiones Astartes, this bundle also include a Legion Glaive super-heavy tank armed with the supremely destructive Volkite Carronade, a weapon whose beam will tear through echelons of troops and vehicles, rending them all to burning ash and molten slag.

Also included is the full Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth game, including four double-sided boards, beautifully printed on thick card stock; a forty-eight page book, featuring an introduction to the battle on Calth and comprehensive rules and scenarios for playing the game; forty-two command and reference cards, used to introduce effects and events into the game; twelve dice and an array of markers used in-game.
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The Legion Devastation Force, £870.
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/The-Legion-Devastation-Force

Buy this bundle now and you could win one of five Fire Raptor Gunships!
Buy any bundle that includes The Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth by 30th November 2015 and you'll be entered into a prize draw to win one of five Fire Raptor Gunships! CLICK HERE for terms and conditions.
This product will be despatched with Free Express Shipping.

The raw might of the Legiones Astartes at the peak of their powers was terrifying to behold. Thousands of gene-enhanced warriors supported by vehicles and war machines of devastating power could be fielded against enemies of the Imperium wherever they arose. Many of the Legions organised their strength as a structure of chapters, battalions and companies, despatching forces of the appropriate strength and assets to wherever they were needed.

This exceptional bundle represents an entire Legiones Astartes company with their supporting units and war machines. The models included allow you to dive straight into the cataclysmic warfare of the Horus Heresy.
Included are one hundred and fourteen plastic models and seven complete resin kits;
• Ninety Legion Tactical Space Marines in MK4 armour, with a huge selection of weapons and custom features, including nine each of heavy bolters, missile launchers, flamers, melta-guns and plasma guns, which could be used to build these Space Marines as specialist Legion Tactical Support or Legion Heavy Support Squads.
• Fifteen Cataphractii Terminators with a variety of close combat and ranged weapon options.
• A full talon of three Contemptor Dreadnoughts, each armed with a Close Combat Fist with inbuilt combi-bolter and a choice of multi-melta or Kheres assault cannon.
• Three Praetors in Cataphractii Terminator Armour.
• Three Legion Chaplains.
• A Techmarine in Mk IV Armour.
• A Cerberus Heavy Tank Destroyer.
• A Typhon Heavy Siege Tank.
• A Legion Sicaran Battle Tank.
• A Storm Eagle Gunship.
• A Spartan Assault Tank.
• An Achilles-Alpha pattern Land Raider.

You will also receive a 6ft tall poster featuring a Space Marine from the Legion of your choice from the list below, specially printed for you. After you have placed your order please contact the Forge World Customer Service Team with your order number and your choice of Legion from: Alpha Legion, Death Guard, Emperor's Children, Imperial Fists, Iron Hands, Night Lords, Raven Guard, Salamanders, Sons of Horus, Ultramarines, Word Bearers, World Eaters.

Also included are three copies of the full Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth game, each including four double-sided boards, beautifully printed on thick card stock; a forty-eight page book, featuring an introduction to the battle on Calth and comprehensive rules and scenarios for playing the game; forty-two command and reference cards, used to introduce effects and events into the game; twelve dice and an array of markers used in-game.
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The-Mad-Magos, Nov 7, 2015

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I've reserved a copy at my local Indie, and may get £20 off it.
I'm happy.

The-Mad-Magos, Nov 9, 2015

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E-50_Panzer E-50_Panzer Well-Known Member

The-Mad-Magos said: ↑

I've reserved a copy at my local Indie, and may get £20 off it.
I'm happy.
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Im getting a 15% discount off mine as well.

E-50_Panzer, Nov 9, 2015

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E-50_Panzer said: ↑

Im getting a 15% discount off mine as well.
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In my case I might be getting about 21% off!

The-Mad-Magos, Nov 10, 2015

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The-Mad-Magos said: ↑

In my case I might be getting about 21% off!
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Salt in the wound like your laughing right at me....

Garviel-Loken1, Nov 10, 2015

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So, I pre ordered the BaC set, as I thought it be a rather good place to dive in to the tabletop. Yet I do wonder,

would the models be valid in 40k aswell as 30k? Any info on this would be appreciated!

van-hoog, Nov 11, 2015

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van-hoog said: ↑

So, I pre ordered the BaC set, as I thought it be a rather good place to dive in to the tabletop. Yet I do wonder,

would the models be valid in 40k aswell as 30k? Any info on this would be appreciated!
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The power armoured marines would be.
There are already parts of Mk IV power armour to be found in current SM kits.

The problem comes with Cataphractii Terminators.
In the HH ruleset they are better than standard Terminator suits, due to special qualities.
But in 40K they would have to be used as standard Terminators, and be WYSIWYG.

Most of the weapons in the set have 40K counterparts for SM. But Volkite weapons are reserved for the Mechanicum in 40K (so far). Luckily there's none in the BaC set.

The-Mad-Magos, Nov 11, 2015

#138
Brother Sachiel van-hoog Arkhona Vanguard

The-Mad-Magos said: ↑

The power armoured marines would be.
There are already parts of Mk IV power armour to be found in current SM kits.

The problem comes with Cataphractii Terminators.
In the HH ruleset they are better than standard Terminator suits, due to special qualities.
But in 40K they would have to be used as standard Terminators, and be WYSIWYG.

Most of the weapons in the set have 40K counterparts for SM. But Volkite weapons are reserved for the Mechanicum in 40K (so far). Luckily there's none in the BaC set.
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So, the 3 tactical squads are 100% 40k and HH valid,
The terminators are only HH valid, yet shouldn't I be able to proxy them to 40k terminators?

Thank you for this info as I have been searching the web and couldn't find any info on it!

van-hoog, Nov 11, 2015

#139
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van-hoog said: ↑

So, the 3 tactical squads are 100% 40k and HH valid,
The terminators are only HH valid, yet shouldn't I be able to proxy them to 40k terminators?

Thank you for this info as I have been searching the web and couldn't find any info on it!
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The power armoured squads are Tactical Squads in 40K, but Veteran Squads in HH.
In HH Tactical Squads are 10 to 20 SM with no special or heavy weapons.

You can proxy Cataphractii as Indomitus for 40K.

The-Mad-Magos, Nov 11, 2015

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