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Havoc with AutoCannons, Abbadon's Grace = Mobile Predators

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Duximus, Jan 21, 2017.

  1. Problem is people doesn't believe that game mechanics are affected by lag / netcode, they just prefer blaming the class, it is easier.

    Thus, i still believe that introducing limitation in the number of weapon / class you can put on the battlefield will solve many problem.
  2. DrunkScotsman Scots First Blood!

    I agree and for comparison lets throw cod into examples. A person with 60 ms will always register more hits and or dmg than someone with 120. So that means the person with 130 could be lagging around and not resgistrimg hits. Be Havior's servers act like that to me. I have around 100-120 ms but still get owned to lag. Not being often it played its part. Especially to hard hitting weapons like the AC 2 shots may seem like one or two your side but as the player shooting could be 5-6.

    We don't have the best servers yes but when HB was op everyone suffered reguardless. I agree with your statements. That being said I think lag difference has much to do with problems in game. Thoughts?
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  3. Celestia Celestia Prefectus

    FUCK. YOUR. LIMITS. If I wanna play as a nurgle sigil heavybolter for a match I'll damn well serve papa suppressing everything. And locking me out of my 1 AV loadout would feel oh so fun on harkus.
  4. Wiawyr Wiawyr Deacon

    Whining babies like you have already gotten the AG's ailment nerfed 3 times now. It still has the exact same effect on gameplay as it did from the start, i.e. none, but you're simply too blind to see or understand how it works, and every time you die as a skill-less JPA you come to the forums to whine about it some more.

    See, this is the reason WHY people use the autocannon on CSM. People like you complained and got the PC nerfed beyond uselessness, so now there's only two options: the HB and the AC. Now you want to nerf the AC into uselessness as well, and arrogantly believe it needs to be done.

    Why not just say you only want havocs to have heavy bolters? Because that's what you're saying, while devastators get grav guns and a unique HB with more suppression. And you have the nerve to say you want DIVERSITY while you take ANOTHER option away! Hah!
  5. Kurze spunkymonkeySK Subordinate

    It's a sad fact that most of my TT days have been spent as an Lsm; they got me before I hit my teens.

    Even to this day the pull from the fascist imperium is strong for me.

    But dammit if I can't bring myself to play much Lsm in this game.

    NOT due to how UP they are you must understand, but due to how they are mostly whiny babies who blame anything but themselves for the state of their performances.

    People need to play all races to appreciate the balance (I have not yet tried eldar so try to refrain from commenting on them as I only have one side of their story).
    Of the the 3 races I have played, each one seemed underwhelming and not as good as what I was facing on the battlefield.
    Which says to me that they have all found balance of some kind - and perfect balance with asymmetrical classes is not easy to achieve.

    Lsm have plenty of unique features - which Lsm players seem to ignore for some reason.
    Stop focusing on what you don't have and want you want; start focusing on solving battlefield problems with your mind and working as a team.

    Csm work as a team a lot in my experience.
    Orks wOrk as a team for the most part.
    Eldar (from watching them trounce my team) seem to work as a team a lot.

    Lsm however seem to act as a bunch of individuals all out for what they can personally get. The only time this isn't true is when half or more of your team is in the same guild.

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