and um wtf Nazdregg is gone from the list? Anyone know why this was done? Also does that mean he's not a canon name so some git can use it?

Spoke to mr google and he was gone in 5th as well? WTF, he was interesting... :<

There is many units disappeared. until 5th. Also you couldn't see in 7th the Old Zogvort, which was in 6th, and he wast intresting hero too.

He's still in the lore so I imagine that you can't use his name

Also, in 7th you can make a pretty shooty boss by adding a Gitfinda and getting the rigt warlord trait from ghaz's supplement book

I want Wazdakka back

Not sure how I feel about the Gorkanaughts and Morkanaughts. Feels more like a cash grab than like a needed niche filled by a new unit. I do like a lot of the new artwork though.

I heared, that Gorka nice at killing enemy troops. and Morka had KFF (inv 5++). Don't know about Gorka, but Morka is intresting unit, need some tactic for it.

But that's the point Kudzu was making. Orks didn't need a troop killing unit. The niche the Morka is filling (giving a 5++) was created artificially by nerfing the previous version of cyborg body. Or is it entirely coincidental that the cyborg body nerf can be somewhat circumvented by buying one of GWs most expensive models recently released for the orks?

I don't mind the overall changes they made... I do miss the ramshackle table for trukks, but wrecking balls got buffed...and that makes that whole deal interesting.

I do miss the named characters, but Wazdakka go a mention in a blurb, and weirdboyz are better, so there's that give n take. Can still model a warboss as wazdakka and use forgeworld rules I guess.

Um, Nazdreg wasn't in the last codex, either. Not as a HQ, atleast. He was mentioned however. Same in this one. Also, I already have a ork codex discussion in the TT thread, if you lotz is interested.

I like that trukks are dedicated transports for more than just boyz, now. We can also take it as a fast attack, if you want one for yer boss or something. Boyz have more incentive to go with sluggas, which I don't mind. Shootas are still great, you just gotta pay more. I like slugga boy models more anyways.

Still waiting on that new warboss model, though. I've seen pictures of him, and he looks like Grukk. He comes with a kombi-rokkit, sadly. I hope they include options for a different shoota, because no one in their right mind (unless you just want to make a fun list) would pick a kombi-rokkit over a regular shoota/kombi-skorcha.

I like that Nobz in boyz mobs can take more shooty options, now. Shootas are free for boss nobz, so you might as well take it if you give them power klaws, since you're loosing that extra attack anyways. They can take kombi weapons too, which is amazing. Kombi-skorcha in a mob of slugga boyz? Yes please!

all i have to do now is explain to my wife why i need another army (speed freak) (i have chaos marines and astra militarum currently)