I think the solution to playable grots is to make them ride squigs. People said their hit boxs would be to small the squig would make the target bigger and faster so the difficulty of shooting them would be skill based also when they half their health the grot dies so the squig can only do melee. I don't know if this would be better as a class or an equipment chose. I just think it would be fun and add some verity.

Explain options: class= cheep alternative to ork boy
Equipment= your dead body acts as a spone point for a predetermined grot rider for that last push to breech the line.

The equipment rider would probably just allow a revenge kill because their wasn't room in the boys backpack for the grot to have gear.
The class version would allow you to equip things like a grenade or armor or other equipment choices.

Squig riders could carry ammo and health packs for support and you could equip a squig mussel when you want to be sneaky.

Hate to break it to you, but Grotz won't be in for launch. I wish they were, along with dreadnaughts (last I heard those aren't for launch either), but the idea you have is sound, as a sort of fast ground based melee class (since we already have fast sky attacks and slow ground attacks, this would fill a middle role). Regardless of the coolness of the idea, I don't foresee it being added in the near future. Plus, many ork players would find it disgusting to play as a grot of any kind! Its an insult to merely be called a grot, let alone actually BE one!

Hopefully grots will come later. Their have been many threads about playing grots I would love to play as a grot. I don't think anyone would hate that. I think people only use that as an insult because orks do, I don't think anyone actually hates the grots. I'm sure their would a sizeable number of players who would want to play them.

I would like to see grot riders but maybe as a pet. But if it would be something similar to WAR , where you have giant squig that eats everything, this would be cool!

I was just kidding with the "players hate grots" thing, I think its a cool idea and hope they get added post launch as well. I know they have a squig backpack cage pet thing, so that's already in the works

It will be very cool if the grot squig rider is an equipement which give to you more ammo or kits to repair your vehicles.

I support this concept the poll confuses me though. The hit box would be smaller but I don't like the whole half health no ranged it would be nice instead to just slow down due to a wounded rider and squig maybe you could get an upgrade that upon death you explode or maybe at no health the SQUIG just runs around hitting things or just dies shortly after

My intention for the loseing range upon half health was that by that point you would be close enough to melee with the squig.