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Founders Do Not Represent Your Potential Playerbase

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Kor, Jun 13, 2014.

  1. Neat, hope the Ork's knuckleduster will be a bit bigger in-game. (Just looks a bit small to me.)
  2. Plague Malgaroth Cipher

    My thing is that these sidegrades can and will effect balance if you look at the bigger picture. Say as an Eldar Warlock one of your psychic abilities is that all of your guys get an extra little bump of damage on every bullet they fire. The sidegrade that reduces damage for increased rate of fire is suddenly a lot stronger when combo'd.

    Little things are going to make big differences with the overall balance of a game.
  3. Why should they? They are not paying for anything, they are being cheap, and taking up space. You don't just expect the revenue fairy to come along and give them more money do you? Don't expect to be on equal level to B2P, because frankly F2P shouldn't
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  4. Joram Joram Well-Known Member

    I was writing a message way to sarcastic and acid even for me... not gonna waste more time on this, be as blind as you want but you can't deny this, the game is not free, it's at least 40$ and paying 40$ will not give you access to the full game, hell I paid 144$ and I won't be able to access some parts of the game, they have a ingame store that monetizes more stuff than a lot of f2p games and they are also charging us for the game.
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  5. DjemoSRB Djemo-SRB Preacher

    And the same sidegrade could be one of the ones Steven mentioned would be in the actual game, or the sidegrade in question would not have that much of a difference so the buff wouldnt affect it in a way that would be overpowered. Then theres the situations and opponents, and other possible negatives to the particular sidegrade.

    Like i said before, until we get allot more info on this its one big game of "what if".
  6. Grigdusher Grigdusher Arch-Cardinal

    i talk about all b2p player.
    there is no real f2p in EC only a F2WAAGH! trial.
  7. Hivespirit HiveSpirit Drill Abbott

    May 23, 2014
    Aug 25, 2014, Miguel:
    9:17 attack bike will be less then a minute faster than a rhine in 90% of the cases
    10:30 well have bikes in the game, unlock for free
    12:25 once the game launch the 2 seated bikers will be for founders only, when the game launch no one else for the past 10 years will be able to get exactly that bike, theyll get other stuff similar but not perfectly exact
    14:40 theyll nerf it if its op

    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNWF3h45At0&feature=youtu.be

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    Im okay with the following systems:
    1. Make RTP acquirable in game.
    2. Make 2 seated vehical an achievment in game requirering 10-100 hours.
    3. Make 5% (or so) population restriction on owning that sidegrade.
    4. Make it time esclusive, 1-3 weeks(?) then everyone gets it. This type of deal done 2-4 times/ year. With 1-2 month pre-order. Exclusive skin.
    5. Avarage - long cool down till when you can use it again (like heroes).
    6. If implemented right im ok with exclusive sidegrades to p2p/founders; theres alot of other vehicals to choose for f2p, so that each sidegrade is a minor minor variation on the battlefield cus each f2p vehical role has alot of variants already. This seems like where were heading at.
    7. Implement a debuff for the character using (active or passive) the p2p item/ content/ vehical while using it to balance the ability difference.
    8. Vehical variants locked to subfactions in order to spice up gameplay.

    The philosophy beeing, time is money and money is time, but time/ money doesnt equal overpowered/ advantage not achievable by everyone.
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    Similar topic:
    ((poll) founders get p2w stuff?) - http://forum.eternalcrusade.com/threads/unique-gameplay-elements.18379/
    ((poll) prefered business model?) - http://forum.eternalcrusade.com/threads/what-is-pay-2-win-for-you-in-todays-game-world.3182/
    ((poll) how implement sidegrade system?) - http://forum.eternalcrusade.com/threads/poll-sidegrades-paywall.30091/
    (microtransactions) - https://forum.eternalcrusade.com/th...e-know-its-coming-devs-need-to-see-this.3002/ 1st post vid youtube.com/watch?v=O-ILszuIEIM
    - youtube.com/watch?v=JNWF3h45At0&feature=youtu.be
    (make rtp acquirable in game) - https://forum.eternalcrusade.com/threads/micro-transactions-and-rtp.25147/#post-466050
    (sidegrades, RTP store prices) http://forum.eternalcrusade.com/thr...s-store-rogue-trader.22908/page-3#post-486110
    (high priced packages good/bad for EC?) https://forum.eternalcrusade.com/th...under-vs-eternal-crusade-founder.22388/page-4
    (p2p content for everyone!) - https://forum.eternalcrusade.com/th...esent-your-potential-playerbase.19853/page-22
    (early access, monetization)- https://forum.eternalcrusade.com/th...dayz-and-crowdfunding.4497/page-3#post-195962
    (business model) - https://forum.eternalcrusade.com/threads/forbes-vs-mmorpg-com-the-p2p-is-dead.4169/
    (EC store, whats ok/not?) - https://forum.eternalcrusade.com/threads/the-cash-shop.1546/
    (sidegrades are pay-wall/p2w!) - http://forum.eternalcrusade.com/threads/sidegrade-and-balance-are-two-different-things.30249/page-3
    (unique p2p features are p2w) http://forum.eternalcrusade.com/threads/lets-face-it-unique-gameplay-elements-are-pay-2-win.20648/

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