TL;DR (Interview sidesgrades/ monetization, with Miguel) Real life is p2w, we dont want that in this game. "We cant have p2w". The attak bike - rhino example is probably based on bishop and knight (chess pieces) (based on weight). "the attak bike - rhino" = "bishop and knight" Attack bike is only a little faster than rhine, thinking about the rough uneven ground rhine might be better. Bikes are confirmed? Ppl will get other/ similar stuff. If attack bike becomes OP theyll change the mechanics/ nerf AB. MMOCRPG ---------------------------------- Isnt it better with attack bike rather than 2 versions of attack bike (f2P/p2p) when one will probably become the better (metagaming)? Isnt it because theres 4 sides in the war, 2 sides = then our thoughts would apply, 3 teams = 1 would be underdog and it would become two sides again kinda. But with 4 teams/ sides it allows sidegrades without going into metagaming, idk. If there wouldnt be an equal role to attack bikes (fast moving) (for everyone) then yea its a problem. Lets say only certain/a few guilds/groups buy's the founder, if its separate individuals its a different thing, or if only 5% of pop can get it. I can imagine the start of how the continous add of content will be implemented if attack bikes are implemented/ introduced in the wrong way. After reading up and watching the interview im a bit more relieved. As long as its not in fashion with e.g two different snipers: f2P: more bullets in each mag, shorter range p2p: less bullets in each mag, longer range That creates metagaming = p2w. -------------------------------------------- Similar topic: ((poll) founders get p2w stuff?) - http://forum.eternalcrusade.com/threads/unique-gameplay-elements.18379/ ((poll) prefered business model?) - http://forum.eternalcrusade.com/threads/what-is-pay-2-win-for-you-in-todays-game-world.3182/ ((poll) how implement sidegrade system?) - http://forum.eternalcrusade.com/threads/poll-sidegrades-paywall.30091/ (microtransactions) - https://forum.eternalcrusade.com/th...e-know-its-coming-devs-need-to-see-this.3002/ 1st post vid youtube.com/watch?v=O-ILszuIEIM - youtube.com/watch?v=JNWF3h45At0&feature=youtu.be (make rtp acquirable in game) - https://forum.eternalcrusade.com/threads/micro-transactions-and-rtp.25147/#post-466050 (sidegrades, RTP store prices) http://forum.eternalcrusade.com/thr...s-store-rogue-trader.22908/page-3#post-486110 (high priced packages good/bad for EC?) https://forum.eternalcrusade.com/th...under-vs-eternal-crusade-founder.22388/page-4 (p2p content for everyone!) - https://forum.eternalcrusade.com/th...esent-your-potential-playerbase.19853/page-22 (early access, monetization)- https://forum.eternalcrusade.com/th...dayz-and-crowdfunding.4497/page-3#post-195962 (business model) - https://forum.eternalcrusade.com/threads/forbes-vs-mmorpg-com-the-p2p-is-dead.4169/ (EC store, whats ok/not?) - https://forum.eternalcrusade.com/threads/the-cash-shop.1546/ (sidegrades are pay-wall/p2w!) - http://forum.eternalcrusade.com/threads/sidegrade-and-balance-are-two-different-things.30249/page-3 (unique p2p features are p2w) http://forum.eternalcrusade.com/threads/lets-face-it-unique-gameplay-elements-are-pay-2-win.20648/
Yes, but his brevity is a good point. We're in an age where a game of this scale cannot survive off a single transaction of $40. This isn't Diablo II. The guys at Behavior are working as hard as they can to find a way to make micro-transactions appealing and fair so that this game will survive. The great thing about this is that these guys rely on our continued support or they stopped getting paid. This isn't an EA cash grab of day one DLC for a crap game with no support. They want to keep developing on this game so it is in their best interest to make it fun. I totally believe them and have been given no reasons not to. They are going to try their best to make a fair and fun game. If I have to pay a little more for extra content then so be it. It appears that the game will have bucket loads of content that base players can enjoy. If the fact that players don't automatically get access to the blue bike that shoots faster, weaker bullets means that all those players quit... well then that's a little childish. I totally understand the issue of imbalances and those should be a concern no matter what. Why is the threat of p2w imbalances so prevalent on these boards but standard imbalance is not? Because they haven't started balancing anything yet. Just give them time to show us what their plan is. They are doing the open development campaign because they believe in what they're doing. Isn't that enough to earn a bit of trust?
you don't read the forum: there is tons of topic about the OPness of assault marine. http://forum.eternalcrusade.com/threads/regarding-assault-marine-balance.22724/ http://forum.eternalcrusade.com/threads/concerns-about-the-assault-classes-power.29914/ and other
The exclusivity does end when the time is up. IF you are whinging about having to purchase things in the store perhaps you need to rethink your involvement here. That ISNT going away, as a matter of fact its a solid foundation of the project. The founder 2 seaters skin will remain founder only, and after that time frame that was mentioned by the team is up they will release 2 seaters for everyone just with a different skin. And thus far when a dev has said they will do something they have, I have no reason to think otherwise just because he didnt say things exactly the same in the last webcast. English is his second language which I am sure you understand, so give him a break, me too.
og the same statement has been posted many times, most choose to ignore it for somthing to complain about tho. search it out, I cant be bothered.
"The Unique 2 man vehicles, like the attack bike, are reserved for the founders (at least for the first 6 months to 1 year and anyway the skin will be unique)." http://forum.eternalcrusade.com/threads/unique-gameplay-elements.18379/
So i Ignoring a topic where i posted since the start? you can clearly see like the issue started the 23 may and we haven't recived any answer about that only "but attack bicke and rhino are sidegrade". this say nothing about another version of the same vehicles for all the player: say only that the SKIN will be unique. not that all player will have that vehicles whitout pay for it. also: not a single dev have talked about limited time exclusve since that topic.
