I don't know, when JPA was a bit OP the hawk was still at their level, and it's better now with its instant death grenades. Even if they made it nearly impossible to escape melee to further those classes, hawks would be the exception to that change, and they would directly benefit when assaulting heavies (not that they wouldn't win anyway) from such a change. Smart pistols on lots of melee classes might hurt a bit, but the more melee the better the environment is for the hawk. Hawks will forever be the best flying unit, because JPAs don't force the opponent to play differently. With hawks, you've to look across the sky and on top of every building everytime you step outside, wasting a lot of time and making you susceptible to invisible or fast infantry units. JPAs don't do that, at worst the enemy can adapt by "guarding that window", but with hawks it changes the game. That's why they'll always be the best, even if all they had were lasblasters and nothing else, they would still be great. They make every eldar around them better just by existing, and they're so fast that they can be everywhere seemingly at once.
Not quite sure how this poll got skewed so far towards Hawk, their a nuisance, a minor distraction at best. If they pull my attention for a minute, regardless of weather I kill them or not (usually they'll just spring half way across the map after I whack them once or twice) that's a minute I'm not killing something that matters. Imo Raptor is the strongest of the weak Glass Cannon Airbone Assailants in EC, though Hawk really isnt in the same genre, again their more of a distraction than any real threat. It is quite fun using Hawk as Melee though, the last thing an enemy expects a Hawk to do is fight back, usually catches them by surprise lol.
Am i the only one that feels like this thread is another "should there be OHK weapons in EC" that indirectly pointed to kannon? it obviously was not the intention of the op as he stated before but welp... ELDAR OP PLIS NERF
Raptor Cheap jump-pack charges, ability of JPA to slam enemy and stun them, sagnificant i-frames, dbash escape exploit, melee + dumbpistols I wonder why ppl vote for hawk. Its mostly a flying avenger than assault unit. Squishy, usually have 1 or 2 fuel cells to maintain survivability or good gun. Knife doesnt have a lock-on. Any JPA shit on hawk with aimbot pistol. hello, people.
I'm just here for some popcorn seasoning. Please pass the LSM. Jokes aside you guys do know your crying about a class that gets an instant 15% dmg nerf on every weapon right? Poor hawks cant even pick up a gun and do full dmg. Are they fast? Yes. Are they annoying? Yes... Oh good they are doing there job.
I cannot concentrate on both of your posts. Too complicated for my, non-eldar brain. Well, they did make it so that they have to fly to use them. Makes it a little more skillful. Also, I really enjoy Swooping Hawks and I feel that they have "true" flight, being able to fly across the map shouldn't identify them as OP, I mean, look at fortress maps. During defense or attacking, Swooping Hawks are pointless at the second capping points, imho.
