So, as the Chaos vote rages on it means that the Space Marine 5th Subfaction vote will be upon us soon. Previous threads have attempted to rally a cause against the Imperial Fists for either Raven Guard or Salamanders but I felt that having all possible founding Legion/Chapters in this vote will help get a more accurate view on which to vote for for those who don't want the Imperial Fists in the game. To note, I'm not voting Imperial Fist but I'd be fine with their inclusion. For those that wish to band together for a single Chapter, this thread/poll should help clarify which to definitely vote for. This is not to tell you that you must vote this way when the actual vote goes live (or a guarantee that any of these will be on the vote,) but to help inform others and make a final decision between Raven Guard or Salamanders (Iron Hands, you're cool too but you don't usually have a strong showing,) if you don't want Imperial Fists in EC right away. Imperial Fists were added (and Iron Hands,) so that the vote for Salamanders or Raven Guard would be more pure and you don't have IF or IH voting for RG or Salamanders. Please, no flaming, trolling, or bashing other people's Chapters as they are all sons of the Emperor and would all be valued fighters in the war on Arkhona. Also, Valrak has a large hammer.