This must be the smoothest trolling ever...and I've seen my share of trolling... It took me some time to figure it out, but I managed it...I'll go get some pop corn now...
Actually you did actually say they were, or at least you implied it: And still waiting on those statistics cause otherwise you are just blowing hot air here. I can say Europeans are the biggest consumers of hard liquor, and until i actually give proof here my statement is null and void, just like yours is right now. Oh and you do not have to explain to me how military roles work and how and what they entail cause the military was mandatory in my country to a few years back. Of course camouflage, infiltrating and the like are part of what it takes to be a sniper, anyone who saw a dude crouching in grass on a picture would figure that out. That unfortunately is not what you are being asked here to defend and prove, their marksmanship skills are. The women you posted there pale in comparison (no offense to these brave women) to the deeds of the "White Death" and that has nothing to do with their sex. You stated a bold argument, and are thus asked to prove it. Has there been testing? Have there been comparisons? Competitions of both sexes in marksmanship where females clearly dominated the field? While on the other hand we have recon troops (this includes snipers) being filled mostly by males in small part due to the lack of a menstrual cycle which i can assume would cause quite an issue for a female recon. My brother had to spend 21 days in the woods alone as his recon training, imagine doing that on a period. Im not going to further go into examples cause the above is starting to sound sexist (and my gf would probably kill me since she can easily browse my comp) so im just going back to the simple point of this argument. You claimed something, i desire proof. The burden of proof lies on your sir and you should either provide it and stop playing ring around the Rosie or concede and state it was only your opinion. Just like its my opinion that females arent better shots.
I've posted less than five times in thread and you assume from that limited information that I want women as damsels in distress? It is a Guardsmen's life to die in the defence of the Imperium not a civilian's. Female, Male or mushroom. As for giving the best case scenario to Civies and the worst to female troopers, well most of the time Guardsmen live the worst case scenario whether there are blood crazed super humans after them, robotic zombies of death or the horrors of the warp. You give the best case scenario for a female Guardsmen then and the worst for a civi.
I'll do you one better go talk to any firearms instructor. For me, personally, Women I've trained on ranges vs men take instruction way better. I've served in a recon platoon as well. They don't have as much ego when it comes in which interupts the thought process for shooting. Women will listen on how to fire their rifle. Men, generally, think they automatically know how to shoot. A great example is On the K/D range I had my M110 SASS. on the range and I had male infantry and female medics. The females consistently hit targets out to 800 meters(granted I did the DOPE for every distance). The males were on and off because as I stated have so much ego where the feel they are automatically out of the womb natural expert shots. The female medics listened to what I said and were able to hit no problem. There are also arguments they are proportioned better with their bodies.
Men and Women test about the same when it comes to shooting. Men have a marginal advantage in certain gun related sports in the olympics but only in sports where female participation is very low to begin with. In sports like archery the two sexes basically perform the same What were we talking about again
So you basically present your argument based on what you personally experienced, thats how an opinion is formed, its not a fact. Both my dad, my bro and myself (so thats 3 generations) have a totally different experience on the matter (my grandfather probably too, though he is not with us sadly for me to ask) and thats how we formed our opinion. Going by your logic if someone tasted a BigMac and said it tasted like sand its now fact that it tastes like sand, irrelevant that there are countless people with a different experience on the BigMac. Until you present said proof of such statistics being done as to prove your point you will be wrong in the eyes of this thread (since im not seeing anyone jumping to support that baseless fact) and until then i see no point in wasting my time reading through your unsuccessful attempts to come out the man in the right without any proof. So ill not indulge in this pointless dance until i have what i requested.
Simple, you always plan for the worst and hope for the best. Planning for the worst means you keep the women at the homefront and PDF, while sending the men off to die. *IF* a world gets invaded (which is actually very rare in the scheme of things) then you still try to evacuate or protect everyone you can until the world get blasted, or retaken. It's not that women are rare in the military, it's that they are rare outside of PDFs for oh so many of the reasons already mentioned. Since the Imperial Guard forces on the TT are primarily designed around being those tithed forces, yes, women are rare. It has nothing to do with women "not being capable" or "not as good shooters", or any other equality issue. In the end, it's the established lore of 40K. Does it mesh with our 'modern sensibilities'? No, but neither does reciting a prayer to a spirit in my computer in the hopes that it turns on, or a thousand other things in 40K. It's just the world that is. If you wanted to model some female troopers, go for it, no one is going to hate on you and most would probably say it's even cool, but it's way outside the 'norm'. If IG are implemented will they probably include female as a standard choice? Probably. Should they? Sure, why not, as stated it's not lore-breaking, at least no more than 5 chapters descending en masse to a single planet. However, for Launch, it's not going to happen. So, really, can we drop the subject until they even start talking about implementing IG?
