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Feels so bad trying to play ranged in this melee game

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Haree78, Oct 3, 2016.

  1. MefDaFixa GeorgePhillips Arkhona Vanguard

    Yu missed ova half ya shotz just slow the video down by a whole lot and you can see easily.
    the Bolta is the Best Ranged Gun in the game.
    It has the best accuracy and damage learn to aim and go for headshots.
  2. MacBeth MacBeth Well-Known Member

    Excuse me, but why do the Marines have to "git gud" when it comes to their standard weapons? Why do we have to go for the head when the Eldar and Ork standard range weapon shred the enemy with just body shots?

    You can take yer shoota ass out of here with yer 33 damage and insane rpm...
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  3. BaronXIII Arkhona Vanguard

    Now, I'm still a bit flaky on the Ork equipment, but if we're talking about your Heavy Weapon, the only change I would suggest is perhaps a slightly smaller AOE, but I'd like to do some more testing on that before I really commit to the opinion.

    For the PC it needs a longer charge-up time (for damn sure), and a slightly smaller AOE at least according to the charge level.

    Is the Rokkit a weapon for the Tactical (Shoota?)

    Edit: I saw one of your later posts in the thread. Just so you know, the Bolter doesn't have the best damage and it's accuracy is really only average tier, maybe a little bit above.
  4. MefDaFixa GeorgePhillips Arkhona Vanguard

    Buy it when you can as your next weapon as orkz its basically a very worse version of the Plasma Charge it takes a long time to charge and its very inaccurate.
  5. BaronXIII Arkhona Vanguard

    Yeah but it's for your Tactical equivalent class right? Not the heavy class right?
  6. MefDaFixa GeorgePhillips Arkhona Vanguard

    I think its for the heavy.
    But it does less damage then the Plasma Rifle Tactical weapon that is charged...
    With over 2x the charge time and smaller aoe with no other firing method but the charge.
  7. Lugin Lugin Arkhona Vanguard

    Rokkit's for the Shoota (Tac equiv).
    Sadly, no stats on the loadout/store, but hitting gauntcrows shows 600 damage.
    And in my experience, when it hit infantry, they die instantly. (and the corpse flies off hilariously)

    I think there is a heavy Rokkit for Lootas, but I don't remember, and don't have it unlocked yet. (assuming it exists)
  8. What was so bad with ranged beeing able to defend themselve again?
    I mean, right now the D-Bash stun duration when done by a Tactical and equivalent is really short, together with the Knive beeing broken as soon as someone looks at it angry, it's clear the intention was to leave Ranged at a disadvantage in melee

    If you ask me, 2-3 swings to kill was disadvantage enough allready :D Can we revert to D-bash beeing viable again for ranged? I mean, it's kinda the only defense they have...
  9. Meurto Active Member

    I main an HB dev and am usually in the top 3 or 4 in score and kills so your points about melee are moot. Standard bolters are quite terrible compared to the ork/eldar counterparts and the storm bolter is a shell of what it once was. The HB can put out a lot of bullets and even at 30m a couple dodge rolls and a lunge can close the gap with minimal damage. I'm not running and gunning solo as that is an etreme weakness of the HB so I stick with a group either defending or pushing a point.
  10. RageScreama RageScreama Well-Known Member

    If by shell of its former self you mean not broke AF then yes I agree. But if you mod the damn thing it is a lot stronger than a shoota. The bolter is also not horrible base but becomes good when modded. Just because a gun doesn't have a <1second ttk doesnt make it garbage which seems to be what a lot of people think around here.

    I dunno what your getting at with the HB comment since it kinda proves my point. You use a gun that puts out lots of bullets and you do well each match. Thats exactly what I was saying to do. Fact is eldar are countered by automatic range weapons in the hand of a person who can aim well. As an ork I'm not gonna try to use a OHK rokkit attack because they will just flip outa the way. Lets see him dodge a rodeo shoota though. Same with bolter stay at optimal range, aim your shots, stay with a group, and unload. They go down easy enough if not the easiest of all factions when you do this. Using slower rof guns like plasma and melee that cant match their speed is a sure fire way to get rekt by a compitant eldar.

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