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Eldar are being balanced WRONG

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by LucasDominus, Sep 29, 2016.

  1. Plongo Subordinate

    lol How about you get good? Give me some footage of you destroying eldar in every way. Then you can say things like that. Dat fucking superiority complex.
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  2. Balgias Balgias Arkhona Vanguard

    Game is garbage, devs are garbage, I regret wasting any measure of time, effort, or hope for this game.
  3. SniffSteven SniffSteven Steam Early Access

    Why do you waste the effort to write things on the game's forum then? Cmon dude, have a little bit of faith. The devs are technically an indie team who JUST went out of the closet and got some major backup. And i mean seriously, this is the best we've had since DoW 2. I dont count Gothic as its, well, its a small as game; and Space Marine was insanely fucking limited and got too boring too quick.

    I think the core of the problem is that people were expecting some sort of gem of epic proportions, a miracle with open world and a fuckton of variety etc etc., with Titans and planetfall scenarios and all the cool shit, but COME ON PEOPLE Seriously? You expect that in 3-4 years of development? A project like that would take a goddamn decade.

    I loved Space Marine, and i expected EC to be a buffed up, mutated, polished version of Space Marine, so as of today i am not too disappointed. Hopefully once most of the balance issues are out of the way and the game is stocked with additional weapons, armor decor, classes, maps and match types, we may be able to see it take a step towards what some of us were expecting it to become.
  4. Drox BioFracture Confessor

    the problem is they are not made out of glass!!!! they have the health and defense of a space marine while still having the cannon aspect, leave the cannon alone, make the stone into glass and eldar will be fine
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  5. Balgias Balgias Arkhona Vanguard

    I don't often take very long to reach a verdict about a game. The most time I usually spend on one single game is around 200-300 hours. I spent a very long time experiencing this thing change very little since you were able to buy into its closed beta, and all how it is changed is its gotten ♥♥♥♥♥ier, and ♥♥♥♥♥ier over time. Core issues with the gameplay such as clunky movement, poor optimization, terrible un-fun ranged combat and my favorite getting stuck on corpses. Soo in closing I can safely say that after having experienced things soo far this sh!t show dev team is never going to get their act together.
  6. SniffSteven SniffSteven Steam Early Access

    Well...i suppose your expertise in the matter leaves me no right to argue. I only bought the game a day before release, up until then i'd just watch streams and stuff.
    I do still hope though. I don't think its a bad game, not at all...just needs lots of tuning.
  7. IdranelLives IdranelLives Well-Known Member

    It's patches like this one that make me honestly question if the Devs actually play Eternal Crusade as things like the Sunrifle nerf confuse me.

    The Sunrifle.

    The (non) Suppression weapon who's biggest use is farming that sweet Suppression Assist 50xp.

    The weapon so inoffensive that it's tooltip had to reminder the browser that it is the best bar-none option for providing aerial suppression in an item field featuring zero competitors. And how that kind of naked, narcissistic hubris had to be employed to reinforce the value of something so otherwise obviously valueless.

    It was doing 10% too much damage?

    Like, this is where I start to question my sanity. How can one thing so, imo, definitively weak to the point where a smart player favors using their Ceremonial Knife -a weapon who's literal name includes the implication that it's not actually intended to active combat use- over relying on their rifle for reliable kills.

    How can it be possible to have such a divergent perspective?

    It's confusing. It's utterly baffling. I get nerfing the Hawk's Talon because that weapon actually functions effectively -albeit with a serious penalty to medium-and-farther accuracy. But sure, Hawks aren't meant to be lethal. Message received.

    But the Sunrifle? Are sure it's too late to get a refund?

    I try to be level-headed about EC. It's not an MMO, but that's fine. It's a lobby shooter and not an open-world territory title like Planetside and that's fine. It's got really pointless, depthless, team-mandatory PvE but that content is ever-evolving and that's fine.

    But this?

    I was doing some research on what's called "The Blood Libel*" as part of a class project on the history of anti-semitism. One of the many myths featuring amongst the cornucopia of horrors promulgated as part the Blood Libel was that Jewish children were born with their fingers melded into their foreheads as part of the curse laid upon them for the murder of Christ. Creepy, right?

    But there was good news! There was an antidote in the blood of a recently baptized Christian infant. Steal, stab, and voila'~! Freedom for yo' fingers.

    Now the actual dozen or so crimes attributed to the Jews by the Blood Libel goes about as far into the realm of imaginable horrors as could be conceived -my personal favorite was that Jewish men menstruated just like their Jewess kin and thus needed the blood of the baptized to replenish themselves- but what really struck me as being apropos to the Sunrifle nerf was how incredibly gratuitous those kinds of claims were.

    Like of all the more mundane crimes and cruelties being attributed to this then-hated and shunned minority someone also brainstormed up infants with their fingers stuck in their foreheads and men-struation because why leave any insult un-inflicted?

    Thus also with the Sunrifle.

    -10% damage? Really? Mind = blown. Maybe the worst weapon for the lowest-scoring class in the entire project and just to keep what's good cool needing 20 hits to kill a vanilla marine gets upped to 22^ because otherwise the Eldar would continue to mount undeserved victories upon it's manifest supremacy.

    Why let any insult go un-inflicted? When someone says "this is why we can't have nice things" they're tacitly stating that they are in real possession of anything and if you're going to take their pride why leave them their dignity?

    Nerf Scorpions because Marines shouldn't ever be worried about leaving their backs open as isn't that directly contrary to "And They Shall Know No Fear"?

    Nerf Reapers because... I really don't know as I'm basically bad at Reaper though I don't have anywhere near the friendly-fire record to prove it.

    But the Sunrifle?

    This is why we can't have anything.

    *a real thing, and not a Chaos Warband of lawyers.
    ^very rough estimate, not doing the research on that right now.
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  8. Cassanova Cassanova Arkhona Vanguard

    Holy shit quality post and and accurate summary of why the swooping hawk (My favourite aspect in the game and on the table) is no longer part of my class roster. Sunrifles are my shit! the lore is awesome, the EXP is awesome but damn i get more kills with HAWK GRENADES then this POS.

    And that was before the patch!

    Now is not even worth the pixels it takes up on my screen.
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  9. Goldo Recruit

    They will add real balance via free DLC
  10. Fugue Fugue Prefectus

    Thanks Hunter's Mark.

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