Yeah having pistols would be nice and give devastators a chance at close range encounters , i understand that classes need counters but being powerless against something is not fun. Having an advantage against another class is ok and expected in a class game, but being completely defenseless is a big no. Best example of that is the las cannon i believe.
If the trailer are anywhere close to how the game will be it seems it is rapid firing "charged" shots! Erhm...that doesnt feel like fixing anything.If anything it makes the PC worst to fight against. The PC using devastator is the only devastator that can beat an assault at melee at the moment though!
Well it can defeat a jump pack in close combat if you get lucky and dbash actually works but most of the time if you do win you would kill yourself in the process.
But you're not disagreeing with him in any way. He said these two can one shot, but are outgunned by PC, which is true. Just compare time it takes for PC to shoot 3 kill shots, then how long it takes RL and KD to do the same. What you'll see: All three can OHK One of them does this 3-5x more often then other two. Targets need to be really close or you need to use AT mode, in both cases, you get a kill you need to focus on point, not area, so there is a huge AoE effect disadvantage for RL as well, at least kannon doesn't share that problem and is pretty much a perfectly balanced weapon here out of the three. Ahh, the weapon that takes 700LP, is incredibly hard to aim, got very low AoE and can't OHK anything. Must be why we see Eldar using tempest reapers all the time. Seriously, outside of me on a single evening, I've seen anyone use tempest ONCE from release until today. Its a horrible weapon that hogs all your LP and gives you shit in return-blue, sparkly, but still shit.
The problem I always saw with plasma cannons is the fact that NOBODY knows how to propely use it. Its a situational weapon in most cases when it comes to infantry, only unorganized teams will suffer campers who are easily found nowdays. EDIT: Most important thing people need to understand with it is that if you using it in close quarters and you have teamates nearby is that you DONT use the charged shot, the semit auto shot is there for this exact reason. Granted the game still has basic mechanics issues, like the spawn points wich are still shitty as they ever were, but fixing this would surely make the abuse of the PC pretty much null in comparison we had before.
A couple weeks ago I decided to use the plasma cannon for the first time. I've never used one before and I usually play melee classes, and usually jump assaults at that. Needless to say it was quite a different game. I topped the score boards with 30ish kills. Something is very wrong if I can play a totally new play style, with a weapon I've never used, in a class I never use, and still get 30 kills.
Had a similar experience when I tested the JPA for an entire match (I main Tactical) and ended up on top of the leaderboard. In my own opinion I suck at melee. Everyone is free to draw conclusions.
To be fair, ranged classes say the same thing about JPAs. But yes, plasma cannon is ridiculous, no one disputes that. I still think the ability to hold the charged shot for so long takes away the skill inherit to using other charged weapons like the rokkit and kannon deffgun.
