I will never understand why people are so fascinated by the mystery of my RL gender when they will never even see my face or hear my voice, much less be doing anything with me where my gender might actually matter.
I didn't mean you per se when I said what I said, don't take it too personally. Still, 5 millions from government sounds like an awful lot of money to us normal guys, but is just to show really. As I said I dont know how much Canadian game devs get paid but lets make a careful estimate that company average is somewhere between 3k and 4k (so lets call that 3,5 then) per month and they had a small staff of 25 on the project at start. That alone is 1050000 per year not counting other employee costs. Then you have all the other costs for licences, office, servers, you name it. That easily comes at least half what those employee costs are per year. So that government money was ofc needed and crucial but those instances don't really play in ones, fives and tens, add five or six zeros and you are starting to get to the standard unit of money they usually move. Running a business is expensive. Nathan stated that founders paid for ~20% of the game. Now this is just speculation and you should not quote me on this, but I'd assume most of the founders took the lowest prized pack because that's how it goes in 90% cases. I'll still just guess something so we can get a grasp of the nature of the sums we're talking about and say that on average spread founders value to EC (including further purchases of RTC and so on) is about 80 dollars. That would be 2 million. That would sound reasonable as that's 20% of 10 million what I could believe was near ECs budget because that sounds pretty right to me for project of this size. Now start deducting those costs from that money (and you also need to understand that that money was not on their bank account at once but they had to go trough myriad of phases to get it little by little) and see how long it actually goes. 4 years is really stretching it. I cant stress enough that this is just speculation, I do this kind of thing for living and these are just my "professional guesses" of how it went down. I could be 100% wrong and they might have totally different formula of how it went. Again, this is just speculation. I just want ppl to understand the approximate numbers we're talking here and stop going "OMG OMG HOW CAN YOU WASTE ALL THAT MoNEY!!!". <-- Again, not targeted to any individual user. edit: And before some salt shaker comes in and calls me out for white knighting, no, I dont approve what bE and Namco gave us, this product is not ready for commercial distribution.
1. I was curious what he meant. 2. I figured players might know and get a response faster. I think they actually answered my original question very satisfactorily. I was gonna call you ignorant for suggesting that a Canadian salary would be 3-4k, but then I realized you meant per month, not per year. I only figured out that was what you meant when I saw your estimate for yearly cost to pay 25 people and noticed the huge discrepancy that would exist if that were the case. I'm not doubting your skills actually, and I don't think you're white knighting, as the math you're presenting seems pretty reasonable and I do appreciate your (expert? I want to say expert) opinion to help me understand something I didn't before. Thanks. : D I do think though, that if you're scaling back the MMO portion of your MMO shooter to a point where open world is gone entirely, persistent world becomes literally a world map where you pick a different territory to have your standard random queue game count its contribution, your "Grand Battle" at launch is a 30v30, and your other MMO features are just standard online game features, then frankly, you've wasted something, somewhere. Pretty badly, too. Maybe not money, but something went to waste.
Furries of any sort count as lesser daemons of Slaanesh. Unless your some kind of alien, in which case
As far as 40k goes? Yes, she'd be a xenos. She also lives far enough away from the IoM that your silly human obsession with hating aliens is totally irrelevant to her. Your faction's starships do not possess the range to reach the planet she is on, as it is beyond the light of the Astronomican.
Oh yeah, forgot to mention that, € per month is how us Finns talk about our salary so I didn't even notice that
I would like to point out Imperial ships CAN go outside of the Astronomican's range, but to do so is dangerous without a skilled navigator and not done unless it is of absolute necessity...Or you're an ambitious Rogue Trader looking for riches and glory to bring back to the Imperium from the uncharted depths of space...Or an Explorator from the Mechanicum that thinks an STC or a lost Forge World might be out that way.
Those kinds of comments aren't even relevant here... S'fine. I was gonna guess American, actually. Americans... are deliberately ignorant of other countries. A lot of Americans don't even know that we don't use the term Native American up here. One American raged at me for an hour because the Canadian term is First Nations. The fact that his outrage was that he perceived it as a disrespectful term was even more unusual. Then he claimed that 10,000 years ago, the continents of North and South America were collectively referred to as "America" and I became very glad that I had not read his previous 4-5 posts. Different forum though. Monthly income is still a relevant figure in Canada of course, and measuring your income by your paycheck is still done, particularly since some jobs don't have a fixed yearly salary but instead you're paid for the actual hours you worked. I've never held a job though, so I dunno. I'm not sure what use a Navigator is when they literally have nothing to navigate by. And yeah, they CAN go outside the Astronomican's range. It's just comparable to sailing into unexplored waters with a thick, heavy, constant fog. You'll be lucky to end up where you want to.
