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Could the Eternal Crusade be won?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Azathoth, Aug 2, 2015.

  1. Ascendant Azathoth Well-Known Member

    I know the whole point is for it to be eternal, but could a faction potentially defeat all other factions and conquer Arkhona completely?

    I mean, if it's literally impossible, what would we fight for? It could be insanely hard to do, or virtually impossible, but have it still be a, albeit really hard to get, thing.

    Thoughts?
  2. Tureilim Tureilim Prefectus

    Considering there is no finite supply of warm bodies on arkhona (until the game dies and the factions all wither horrendously), I'd say every major victory is at best fleeting. Namely: "As soon as your faction mostly goes to sleep, your victory is laughed at by those across the world when they have far less defense to fight through."
  3. The likely answer is 'no' to ending the crusade - as with all faction-based MMOs, they're built to essentially maintain the status quo for the lifetime of the game. If in 6 months the Space Marines have won then we need a new crusade and all of the associated content to go with it. Not likely to happen. Even if you designed it to have a 0.00001% chance of it ever happening, sod's law will inevitably strike far earlier than you ever anticipated as a developer. ;)

    Conquering all territories may be possible in principle, although meaningless in campaign terms. The only effective 'victory' would be if it was possible to either prevent the enemy from spawning (poor metagame design) or lock them all behind their single spawn points with massed guards outside (poor game design)

    The best we could hope for is a commitment from the developers that at some point in the future, hopefully many years from now, when EC is set to be shut down that they won't just turn it off and provide no closure, or arbitrarily declare a stalemate, but will have one last campaign to decide the canon ending of EC.

    How they'd do that with multiple global servers is a good question, and it might be something which would need to be planned and developed in advance (because no-one will want to spend extra time on a project about to be scrapped, and with their job potentially at risk), but it could be asked for.


    Alternatively, there's always the potential for player-driven story campaigns which can be won and lost. My guild ran a few of those in WAR, and it's highly likely we'll find some way to do the same in EC. ;)
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  4. Grigdusher Grigdusher Arch-Cardinal

    only when the game close.

    but for example the can conclude single "war" like the first war of arkhona, the second war etc etc etc
  5. I like to emphasize on that, if its an endless shuffle of the same territories...well it gets boooooring (at least for me) after 6-12 months.
    So I would really really look forward to something which can be won or lost permanently! e.g. continent wide campaigns...but I am sure the Devs are playing on that....however as I said hopefully not in the way that everyone is the "winner" and there is no looser...

    I know I know there a lot of people who can not win, who want everything and the best and can not live if they are not able to add a particular trophy on their pile of trophies :(....ah let them whine, cry and yell...and I will be pleased like Slaanesh listening to their souls crying out in agony!
    (maybe it has also an pedagogic effect how to deal with loss and failure in real life...some people need to learn that you cannot have everything in your life due to a trillion of reasons...live with that or change it by your own effort but whining is for babys and snotlings...)
  6. DEIMOS The_Roadwyrm First Blood!

    We will all win when the war starts! :D
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  7. It Like you dont get the idea behind an Eternal crusade.
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  8. Loadza Dakka Skull_Splitta Well-Known Member

    What do we fight for? Well, to fight of course!

    So long as we's fightin', we's winnin'. Dead simple, see?
  9. Tarl68 TARL68 Arkhona Vanguard

    gods ... if you want to win play solo games, then you can be the saviour of whatever the games about,

    PvP games is all about repeat, the occasional change of scenery but the same game and quite often the same damn people lol,

    EC should be a thing you can sink an hours gameplay into or several hours gameplay into and still be able to enjoy yourself ... rather then spend half your time bitching how the other idiots who play during different hours then you have screwed you over by ruining everything you worked for the last time you were on
  10. Serg Serg First Blood!

    This was the main problem in WAR, when you get kicked out from main city for 8 hours when it was captured and no PvP in Tier 4 is going. You could go in to some dungeon or relog with other character in lesser tier.
    When I didn't have much time for playing I only logged in to see the city captured and logged off.
    I don't want to be locked from playing my faction in EC.

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