Well now Eldar players will come saying they're not OP and that their melee is ok. It's just a team work that helps them to one shot you in the back.
That line is trademarked by the forces of Chaos in Arkhona (under Abbys leadership ofc) since early 16!
I only play eldar, and I probably lose just as much as I win. As for the melee, they are supposed to be the fastest. An Eldar starts clashing with an Ork, if he goes quick for quick, he will be staggered after the first or second clash, letting the Ork tear you apart with their huge melee damage. Against marines, they can clashed 3 or 4 times before they get staggered. On a frontal assault Eldar will always lose, so they need to use maneuverability to my advantage. By the way, how is my heavy attack clashing with your fast attack a good thing for me? I should overpower but I don't. I can't remember how many times, I have been fighting someone in melee, and it was just me and him, and then another ally comes in to help because it's taking so damn long to kill him with my shitty shuriken pistol and my dancing around. Don't get me wrong, I love the way they fight, but I don't like hearing people complain about Eldar being OP. Just because they don't just charge in and swing like everyone else, and you can't adapt to that, doesn't make them OP. I've rarely seen Orks or Marines use maneuverability, and most of the time when they do, it's with those damn jet packs.
Just hit cancel every time you see eldar in the match up. Wait a few minutes, get a glass of water and come back. It is what I do.
Basically, from my understanding the Eldar have problems with there Health/Armor/Toughness, I shouldn't be scared crapless against the Eldar with a Power Fist. For the amount of impact and raw damage the Power Fist exerts, Eldar shouldn't just be able to "clang" me and keep swinging, it looks silly and is ridiculous to even think about. As for ranged, Swooping Hawks look ridiculous, the ability to blind fire a targets armor down, and then Swoop in and 1 shot them in melee is pretty ridiculous, and this isn't even regarding their ability to just fly around the battlefield not having to worry about anyone hitting them because basically accuracy is that of a drunk stormtrooper. Even if you are able to catch one motionless in the air (he is aiming) it takes 5-6 bolter shots to make him fall out of the sky, only to see him fly away again before you have a chance to actually put damage into him. Eldar's speed I have no issue with, they should totally be able to dodge roll and run away from a fight melee or ranged. Basically Eldar need fixing, there mechanics are sound, the stealth looks good, and there healing is understandable as long as they get a bloody nerf to their survivability. This is what I have gleaned from my time on Arkhona.
Shoot down Swooping Hawk in flight- check Find Striking Scorpion at cap point and kill it- check Kill Dire Avenger in direct firefight with bolter- check Beat Howling Banshee in melee fight with ork- check Wipe out group of eldar buffed by Warlock embolden- check Run Wave Serpent down and slag it with melta- check Stalk Wave Serpent and slag it with lascannon- check I'm not a great player, I'm mid-tier, happy to say it. All the complaints about eldar I have personally done today. It's not always easy, especially against a coordinated team, but there's no artificial difficulty in fighting eldar.
Their ability to avoid damage and deal damage is high. In melee they literally spam to victory and it's a legit tactic because it works. Sure there are good Eldar players and sure there is an organized zerg of them, but all things being equal their melee is off the hook. Any faction that relies on mitigation loses to the melee spam and no other faction has heir ability to avoid damage and apply damage that quickly. Rarely do they lose and sure, folks want to say it's exclusively skill or tactics, but it's not that entirely. If it's the whole team thing and they are basically fielding the majority of a team verse pick-ups, I suppose that begs a different answer entirely, one they won't like.
Only thing is, every time I go against ANYONE as Eldar, and melee spam, I get killed, know why? CAUSE ALL THE OTHER RACES ARE STRONGER AND THEY WILL LOSE CLASHES IF THEY SPAM. That is, if the person getting spammed actually knows what they are doing. On the other hand, I can't roll away from a space marine fast attack spam, because he covers more ground with a swing then I do with a roll. I've seen so many marines just spam attacks and use that to move around, you do that as Eldar, and you are asking to get killed.
So uh... you guys have any idea what you're doing with Eldar? Like seriously who is in charge? Maybe slap em a few times.
