No. Operations, the process of bits. A 32 bit processor processes 32 its per hertz. A 64 bit processor processes 64 bits per hertz. Using what I wrote before a 3.2GHz 64bit CPU processes 6.1 Mbps (781 Kilobytes) more than a 3.1 GHz 64bit CPU per second. So the first CPU, in this example, processes an extra gigabyte of information in 22 to 23 minutes than the second CPU. [QUOTE="Gorkam, post: 923219, member: 41910"Not that much but yeah it does contribut a bit, but what i was sayong is a GPU ( on a CG card) without changing CPU is pointless since the GPU will wait for cpu to respond and waste most of is time waiting for him.[/QUOTE] I acknowledged that. I understand that just sticking in a Graphics Card won't necessarillary get the most power out of it. It can be hobbled by both the CPU and the Bus Speed. But adding a new Graphics Card will be better than relying solely on the CPU's GPU, no matter what Chip you put in. Plus you also need to make sure there is enough power to support the Motherboard, CPU, Memory, and any cards in the expansion slots. If the power is insufficient then the system will slow. You will need at least a 500 Watt PSU, and that should be the actual wattage it puts out not the labelled output, preferrably 750 watts or more.
Nope First of as i said 1 clock != 1 instruction ( most processor make parrallel instruction, asynchronous ALU's call, Process swapping etc...) Second 32 or 64 bit is the length of the data "Word" ALU process in each calc. I dont even know what you imagine "processes 32bits per hertz" mean.... Bits and Byte are value of memory. 32 time a Yes or No choice. Perfect for storing number ( you can count to 32 on your own right hand using binary) but... 32 or 64 bit means that when your processor make a A+B calc, A and B are 32 or 64 bit wide. it does have an heavy impact on processor speed ( and other thing like adressing things larger than 4gb at a time) but it's not " my CPU as Twice the Bits so he run twice fast" things. at all. Some image processing processor have 256bit word size and are slow as fuck. just a matter of design. first of 1 MB = 1000 KiloBytes = 1 000 000 Bytes 1 MiB = 1024 KiB = 1 048 576 Bytes Sources : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte ( the table in the right top) http://www.iso.org/iso/fr/home/store/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=30669 (ISO 80000-1:2009) Even considering your formula is true ( it isn't but considering) 3.2*10^9*64= 204.8*10^9 bit*s-1 204 800 000 000 /1000/1000/1000/8 = 25.6 GigaByte*s-1 so in 22 minute 25.6*22*60 /1000= 33.792 TeraByte (simplifying a bit) 3.1*64/8*22*60/1000 = 32.736TeraByte First, well 33 TeraByte of data in 22 minutes, good score.... (nothing wrong with the formula at all) Second you gain 1 Tera on 33 Tera, that's like 3% So you ask him to spend considerably lot more money for 3% Gain on a none optimised for gaming CPU. Well i sure will not do it, but if you want it for yourself go for it, but dont tell people it's a good strat, it's not. Maybe, honnestly dunno without testing. it depends greatly on how the CG will run with the old CPu and how a new CPU will run alone but .. plausible i'd say Nope. Electronique is not a combustion motor. More gas doesn't give more juice. At the notable exception of moving rotor ( like fan, hdd etc..) pc part are not fluctuating on electric current. They need a base voltage and power to make the detection of a good "1" and a base line clear enough to detect a good "0" with enough "space" between the two to safely differenciate both. Either they have and they run, either they doesn't and they doesn't. But if they doesn't work , they won't "slow down" they just doesn't work.
You really don't know what you're talking about. A bit is binary number (0 or 1) representing a switch, in the case of a CPU it's a micro-transistor. Binary is the machine code of a PC. It is the language your computer "thinks" and communicates in. And yes, memory is measured in it. But all programs are made up of bits, including Windows itself, Internet Explorer, and Eternal Crusade. And to run, they need to be processed by the CPU. How many bits a CPU is rated is how many bits it processes in an operation, and the hertz of a CPU tells you how many operations it performs in a second. On a Multi-core CPU each core is a processor that shares the processing work in order to reduce the heat it produces. They either divide up the work or take turns. Yes and some are a decade old. It's about comparing two similar processors. I know how big a Gig is. I may have gotten my sums wrong as I'd just gotten off a 9-hour shift, through which I was dealing with a migraine, and may not have been thinking quite clearly due to pain and tiredness. But I do know that a 64bit processor rated 0.1 of a Gig faster than a similar CPU, processes 762.9 Megabytes more per second than the comparable CPU. I'm sorry but personal experience, as well as a basic understanding of electricity, says otherwise. I literally had a PC that was running slowly. I upgraded the PSU to one with more Watts, and the PC ran faster. The reason? I had too many devices running in my PC for my old PSU to fully power (a DVD Drive, a DVD-RW Drive, two HDDs, a couple of case fans, the Motherboard, CPU, Graphics Card, Memory, Sound Card, and a Network Card), but the new one could. Just like turning on all the appliances in your home eats up the watts (measured in KiloWatt Hours), having too much running in PC will eat up your PSU's output measured in Watts. And if you don't have enough watts for a demands, you're PC will slow. Just like you're home in a brown-out.
Basic knowledge of how electronic circuitry works says you re wrong. Edit For the OP: If you want help Pm Me or Ganelon. no point to continue here as "someone" won't let it go whatever we say. I build CPU and System for a living, i will be glad to help but i give up on this thread
I'm Cisco certified to build PC's. Though the certificate is just over a decade old, but I recently did the coursework for a CCNA qualification. I have also been taught about electronic circuits since the late 80's. Part of which was learning how electricity worked, including the relationship between voltage, current/ampage, and watts. Can you tell me how I am wrong? I'd really like to know.
Most of electronique dont care the least about voltage or ampage. They need a good 1 and a good 0 and a way to tell them appart. That's why most electronique work on 5V, we couldn't care less about the real "power" of the current we just need one stable enough to tell 0 and 1 apart. So why do you up the current when you OC ? mainly cause since the current is not a perfect "square" signal so you need higher up and down to detect them faster, and because when you OC you tend to have more error and perturbation so a stronger 1 is farther apart than a weaker one, meaning he will be easier to detect in the "electrical fog" that heavy OC produce. There is also the fact that at that kind of speed, you sometime need more "flow" only to have enough electron at each time to detect them (or detect they re not there) That also why CPU started to slow down on the "finer printed, faster clocked" war, cause they hit the electron wall. they are now printed so thin that their "wall" start to let electron trought and they loose their 1 and 0. So that being said. If your alim is stable enough to provide a way to tell 1 and 0 apart, your electronique would work, and work nearly full speed ( if the voltage is REEEEEEEEEEEEEALLY low maybe the error correcting stuff will drag you down but it's really unlikely since most electronique has a low switch below whom they wont work anyway). Upping the power will speed up a motor or a fan, maybe even a HDD but for as long as they havve enough electron to tell 1 and 0 apart most electronic will work full speed. or Won't work at all because they dont tell 1 and 0 apart. But upping the current is not stepping on the gas, you will not speed up an already working CPU or memory stick. at least not in tangible way ( more than 15% per say) (and for the title war, i'm CCNA Certified, had a degree in low-level programming and electronic, used to work for logitech, now work on a thermodynamic calculator startup building infra and calculator for them. Pretty sure i know my shit)
Yes, but you are forgetting that Wattage equals Voltage times Ampage and not everything in a PC runs at the same voltage or ampage. And all the devices in the PC draw from the same source. So if you have too many devices in your PC trying to draw on too little power then you will get the computer equivalent of a brown-out and the PC will slow. This will impact certain devices and systems more than others, but even if your CPU isn't effected, memory can be whether it is RAM or non-volatile HDD, and that will slow down access of any programs running which will in turn slow your PC. Even if you upgrade just the CPU, if your PSU was under-powered anyway then you won't get the most out of your new setup. Having enough wattage to not only enable your PC to run smoothly when performing normal operations and tasks is not as good as having enough to cover peak performance required for intensive operations and tasks, like when running a game with Eternal Crusade being an example. This is why I suggested that the OP may have to look at upgrading his PSU. (I have been learning about computers since the mid-to-late 80's. I concentrated on the Hardware side. I also know that the reason they switched to Multiple Cores on a single Processor was due to heat build up damaging such fine, nano-scale electronic circuits. I've rebuilt my own PC multiple times, got Laptops to run Faster, and have a plan to build my own Tablet PC. When it comes to hardware I do tend to know what I am talking about, though I don't have any degrees just quite a few fundamental qualifications and quite a bit of fundamental knowledge.)
that's where you re wrong. Most device like HDD or Ram or CPU have very narrow working range in voltage/ampage. For Consumer grade electronics it's usually around 5% meaning that if your "12V" is under 11.4V the damn thing freeze and shut down.(WD Caviar Red DataSheet say +-0.5V for exemple) So yeah maybe they re running 5% slower, if they are capable of adjusting their speed to incoming current. Not like it change many things anyway. Military and prototyping grade are far better of ( in the order of 3X% or 4X%) but they are not so common on "normal joe pc". But to be honnest you are right on something, the OP should take care of power consumption cause upgrading could mean drawing to much power and shutting down the damn thing.
