I will admit I absolutely love the idea that one of the lost primarchs is actually just a major fella over on Mars that the Emperor was just like "Sure stay here, others all think I found and killed you or somin'. Keep things chill with the Admech for me son. "
then what happened to him, there clearly wasent one during th HH. And to what Uri said, BL has come forth and said that any book might be properganda... and the reason they said that was to try and save some face after CS GOTO's teribly bad books where realeased living under the rule of all BL is confirmed lore. So now all BL is confirmed lore that might be propaganda. Only because of that darn Irish lepper
WHY.. I thought we were a on looker into the universe. Couldn't we see what was propaganda and what not to not create fights between the fans? I Mean that also makes a dispute on what is cannon and whats not. with that you can pull the whole Its propaganda thing on any book that is not supported by a codex. That also raises the question then if this is propganda how much the average imperial citizen knows about the universe. That just seems enraging.
thank the policy of all BL being lore, and then them letting CS GOTO get his books published. but in general just think that good writers books are lore, like Abnett (apart from 1 bad book), Chris Wriaght, Mcneil, ADB and the likes.
That seems like a bad way of telling things. There needs to be a bit constant way to tell if its cannon or not. Becuse if you go if its good or not then you have more of a Biased or opinionated way of telling if its cannon or not. Example someone could say with that line of thinking one omnibus is not cannon over another. Like a space marine book over a eldar book. I mean BL should just grow a pair and say what is cannon and what is propaganda.
The owners of the IP haven't seemed to care in a long time about any of that. Frankly we've got a general enough sense of what is canon (AKA Space Marines, Eldar and main line units) that we can fudge around with more of the internal detailing as we please. I'd rather have the ability to just say C.S Goto's fever dreams on paper aren't canon and the freedom to make up my own insanity.
i agree. The general consensus also lies with that good books from good authers. I only pointed out the stupid propaganda lore, to correct what Urian Said earlier
You shut your piehole before daring to slander the Omnissiah! Besides he didn't lie about the...thing...beneath the Red Planet. He just didn't told anyone.And why would He? He placed Guardian there for a reason.And Guardian did what an entire Titan Legion could not... Umm...and I head a totally different idea.Totally different and completely original...xD Yeah...but the thought that one of the Purged could land on a Forge World...is not a far-fetched idea.Now...we just need to strap him metallic wings like Sanguinius,more hovering then flying,with anti-grav engines.Mind like that of Magnus...but focused on invention and innovation and not...philosophy/warp-meta things. Meticulously organized like Lion.Oh and has a thing for guan-daos/halberds/2H axes. I had done a bit about fluff centering his growing up,maturity,the forge-world where he found himself on and his first facing of adversity. Oh...and reuniting with the Omnissiah...with a cliffhanger Anyway...Purged Primarchs...well...first of...what we know and what I have collected. Collected facts; <excerpts> <inloading from a thrice-sealed data-bank from Temple of All Knowledge> <Praise the Machine God> -One of the two Legions where cleansed one hundred years before Istvaan III atrocity. -One or both have been culled by Leman Russ...the Wolf King fulfilling his role of an executioner just as predicted by the Omnissiah.He was built for that after all. Prospero Burns (fuck you Dan Abnett!) -Horus had affections for one of the two Primarchs...but he considered the fate of these two...just and needed. -During Horus Rising,beloved Primarch of the Luna Wolves reminiscents on the fate of the two Primarchs (just before that scene...there was a 'incident' with one of the 'abominations from the warp'. (Purged due to Chaos corruption?Possible...since Lorgar almost suffered the same fate...his pod being severely damaged,considering they were not designed for warp-travel); -Magnus reveals in Thousand Sons that one of the two Legions have been assimilated to the XIIIth Legion (Ultramarines),causing the later to swell in size as the biggest Legion during the Great Crusade; -Magnus reveals in Thousand Sons that his Legion was close to suffer the same fate as one of the two.More on this from Ahriman`s point-of-view as he remembers his lost biological brother. -I (Zeth) have found in Deliverance Lost also an excerpt on the said subject...as Corax has worded it...but I blanked it in my notes and rewrote it with "<censured by the order of a Master Adept>".I aint re-reading the novel again...damn me and my methodological adherence to the Credo Omnissiah. -During The First Heretic Lorgar reveals to us in his dialogue that he has with Magnus,that he loved one of the two Primarchs,that he grieved them deeply.He also reveals to the uber-awesome Crimson King his hidden paranoia of suffering the same fate as the two Legions; -In the Lighting Tower Dorn remembers the two Primarchs and speaks briefly about them with Sigismund. Hypothesis: -By the order of the Machine God...one of the two Primarchs have been executed...along with their Legion.Lorgar was present when this happened. -Malcador oversaw it,ensuring His will be done. -Leman Russ and His Legion conducted it. Conclussion: -One of the two Primarchs...and thus his Legion through the gene-seed instability have mutated,been corrupted by the Ruinous Powers in one form or another. -Both of the Primarchs have came and went...yielding to their fate,whatever it was. -Both of the Primarchs and their legions have served for maximum of fifty years into the Great Crusade. Addendum: The said compilation excludes the following scenarios: -One got nom-nommed by `nids; -One of the Primarchs 'disappeared' by wandering away to other galaxies; -One Primarch suffered his fate BEFORE the start of the Great Crusade; -One Primarch being swallowed by a wormhole and appears in the 42M...or...tomorrow to 'save' the Imperium; -Malcador being a Primarch; -C.S.Goto doesn't count...whatever he said about the Primarchs; -Female Primarch; (Dorn addressed both of the in the Lightning Tower as 'brothers' as he remembers the events of the past); -Xeno-hybrid Primarch...because stupid! (daemonic does not count!); -Augmentations on one of the two Primarchs PRIOR to his maturation into...'adulthood'; -One being swallowed by a Warp Storm and got spat out X years later. Whatever happens in this thread from hence forth is PURE fiction based in 30/40K setting and nothing more.It cannot be considered a possibility as a canon lore.I am not bantering how we should NOT do this and use our imaginations...I am just saying what is canon...and what is not - what is impossible and what is NOT. Edited;
Look we were supposed to go here full out on our imagination, no? And I just go beyond the box, because whatever happened was extremely grave and anything could have happened. Especially given that there were indications of Tyranid specimen loooong before M41, given especially the indicators we see on Catachan or things like the Krakens from Fenris. And to add to @High_Adept_Zeth Conclusion: Gene-seed instability and what not could still go hand-in-hand with the Legion of the Damned. And the Wormhole is not being spat out X years later, rather to travel a huge amount of space in a short amount of time, by bending space. You could travel a Wormhole to be spat out in another galaxy, watch Stargate Thus 'The Forgotten' could have faced the Nids in another galaxy. I am not saying it happened, I am not saying I believe it happened. I am simply challenging the confinements of the imagination and thinking outside of the box, because that is what @Skarboy asked us to do. Lastly: I am not here to discuss what BL does or why they do things the way they do. Fact is, headcanon's are a thing and that no book is to be taken face-value. If there comes an Astartes and 'easily' kills an Eldar, then it is PoV of the Astartes because he thinks he is so much better than an Eldar. Now if we read in an Eldar book how s/he kills an Astartes easily, then it is the Eldar PoV because Eldar see themselves above humankind, with that I leave that part of the conversation alone in peace.
