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Banshees V/s Scorpions

Discussion in 'Eldar' started by Abhean, Oct 22, 2013.

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So'Kiel So-Kiel Well-Known Member

This thing. Armored. Slashing you with the gleaming powersword.

Stuffing you with tiny monomolecular blades, wrecking your nervous system with every sound.
Love this picture!

So-Kiel, Nov 15, 2013

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Pm713 Pm713 Subordinate

Droguza said: ↑

Heh... The Melta A.K.A. victimized weapon of videogames... downgraded to the rank of " Space Shotgun ".

You are correct that you could... but generally they die as soon as they are in the open, since every other weapon bar close combat have the advantage. Yeah... i mean, a new assault player might not pick up on what weapon he had, and try to kill him, and die. If the entire enemy team had Meltas then only my teamates would be getting kills. But switching loadouts during the game is a bit of a moot point... because anyone can change to have an advantage. Aside from that... if they changed to close range superiority because an assault marine keeps killing them... I've done exactly what i aimed to do.

And i think you underestimate a skilled Assault / Raptor.

EDIT: Not that being good at the class actually even takes skill... but the ones that keep playing and refining it become an asset.
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Personally I think I did quite well as an Assault. Don't see how an entire enemy team having Meltas stops you getting kills.

Pm713, Nov 15, 2013

#152
Warpman Warpman Subordinate

Pm713 said: ↑

Personally I think I did quite well as an Assault. Don't see how an entire enemy team having Meltas stops you getting kills.
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The point is that melta-squad can faceroll anything and everything but Heavy-flamer-wileding dudes in close confined space.
ANd space marine players shit their pants because not Power armour, Marine epic balls-out toughness nor even TDA won't save them from it.

Warpman, Nov 15, 2013

#153
FabricatorGeneral Unbihexium Forum Beta Tester

It all comes down to whether you like faceguns or lades with large and prominent assets. So what'll it be?

Unbihexium, Nov 16, 2013

#154
Joram Joram Well-Known Member

Unbihexium said: ↑

It all comes down to whether you like faceguns or lades with large and prominent power swords. So what'll it be?
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I fixd for you.

Joram, Nov 16, 2013

#155
FabricatorGeneral Unbihexium Forum Beta Tester

Joram said: ↑

I fixd for you.
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I guess that counts as assets too...

So'Kiel likes this.

Unbihexium, Nov 16, 2013

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Valihdyahr Valihdyahr Subordinate

Droguza said: ↑

A'lot of games have increased speed for various classes... from the rogues " on use " ability from World of Warcraft, To the " stab " build of Modern Warfare 2. While i too feel the scorpions should get these bonuses that make them what they are... through years of videogames i know that it will be easier for them to be left out of the game. I already read elsewhere on these forums that Stealth mechanics will not be used or be short term at best.

I can see a game where they are implemented... and have all the utility that makes them as close to canon as possible... but it still looks very bleak. There are other factors to how well they will perform. Such as other human beings on your team: Typically the number one aspect of failure. Picture yourself breaking LOS to run at the enemy... you zig, you zag... you blow a short term stealth skill to get a one hit kill on the target most furtherest back, then even manage to kill another before your demise ( and that is being very generous, cause there probably, sadly, won't be 1 hit KO moves ... even in melee ). Respawn timer. And during that time... all your team did was continue to fire from cover, killing nothing, not advancing in the time window you gave them. You get back to the fight, and try to engage again, after telling your team to move up when you attack ( they probably won't... you know this, but you say it mostly out of frustration that they were so ignorant the first time ). When you engage, the ranged opponents simply move LOS from your team, and focus fire on you. You die.

Even outside of playing with random teamates... The scorpion would need more than mobility for close combat to work. When you cleave together ranged teamates, their synergy on almost every videogame is above average. I want 40k Melee to be viable ( because we all know it is a huge part of 40k ). Taking less damage... and having a threat level of : you never beat them in close combat, as ranged, ever... would be ideal. Otherwise... people will just play ranged and kite... camp... hide all day long.

I don't expect a melee class to win a ranged battle standing at 50 feet away... i also don't expect a ranged class to beat a melee class at 3 feet away.
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Many, many ellipsis.

Valihdyahr, Nov 16, 2013

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Droguza Droguza Active Member

Valihdyahr said: ↑

Many, many ellipsis.
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no... i don't think so... how can you have... too many?

Droguza, Nov 16, 2013

#158
Striking Scorpion Member

I'm glad to see that Scorpions continue to reign supreme.

Striking Scorpion, Nov 17, 2013

#159
Warpman Warpman Subordinate

Path of Warrior...
That's the reason people love Scorpions.

The same as with Ultrasmurfs.

Warpman, Nov 17, 2013

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