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Aspect Eldar RP Interest and OOC Thread

Discussion in 'Role Playing' started by BadDo9, Feb 19, 2016.

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What Aspect Would You Follow?

Poll closed Feb 26, 2016.
  1. Dire Avengers

    22.2%
  2. Striking Scorpions

    27.8%
  3. Warp Spiders

    38.9%
  4. Fire Dragons

    27.8%
  5. Other Canon Aspect (Please Specify)

    33.3%
  6. Player-made Aspect

    27.8%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Fox Vulpas Well-Known Member

    Are corsairs more flexible then regular eldar?
    and are allowed to experiment more?
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  2. Jorimel Jorimel Well-Known Member

    A comprehensive and thorough answer, thank you for taking the time :)

    Well, you see, the point is that while in Aspect "War Mask" there is NO other self, it is exiled, it is shut away. You are focussed entirely on war and the business of war. If any other facets of your life leak in, you are likely to get a bullet to the head as you lose focus. So no "playful flirting" while in Aspect. It's a fundamental point. It is, let me put it this way, as realistic as a Space Marine flirting.

    "Brother Kemriel, that armour really brings out your eyes."
    "Why thank you, Brother Amross. Have you been working out?"
    "Oh, well, just a little ..." *playful arm punch* "Maybe we could spar together some time, you know, familiarise ourselves with close combat doctrines?"
    "I'd like that, Brother. Maybe you can help me strip down my heavy bolter? I have been having some trouble with the belt feed ...."

    ... don't do this*.

    At other times, yes, by all means have a normal life, in fact this is encouraged! - though I would expect all concerned to be aware of the looming spectre of war and death that accompanies dating a solder in the 41st millennium. Which can of course be dealt with in different ways - yes even like Khalaeth, though only Velos gets this reference :) By all means flirt outside combat. In fact, have a look at the behaviour of people under pressure of war I am certain 100% there is an amount of it going on, "for tomorrow we die".

    Much as I like Velos *puppeh hug* you are getting your information third hand from someone who refuses to read primary sources and is proud of that fact. It hurts me right in the academic :p

    BUT. :)

    In regard to that specific question.

    No. A Farseer is an Eldar on the Witch Path who has spent so long studying the Path of the Seer that they are no longer able to do anything else - they are like an Exarch of the Seer Path. Just like an Exarch, there is no room for anything else in their life other than what they do as a Seer. They are lost on the Path. It's the same level of tragedy and yet usefulness and power as an Exarch with the same concomitant loss of anything resembling a personal life. So no, they can't, unless in the specific case below, which is me presuming that the loss of the person to the Path is bad enough without making them get rid of their SO as well.

    If a Seer who became a Farseer already had a bonded partner, lifemate, bondmate or whatever you want to call it (what's wrong with spouse or husband or wife? anyway the thing that fulfills that equivalent role), then what happens? There is no lore on this. I would say that there is no requirement to divorce your lifemate, but imagine this: the person you love has turned into a person so obsessed, so focussed on their job that they literally have no time for you and can barely remember how they once felt about you. There are other tragedies in the 41st millennium than a bullet to the head. So they might have a wife/husband whatever, in the same way that a person lost to Alzheimer's has one - they just have a bare recollection of what they once had, when it surfaces, that's all. Functionally, the answer is still no, and the moments of recognition are just more pain. Not, I suspect, what you want in a game :)

    Thank you. I want to spread the lore-love and am happy to help do so - the more people who enjoy Eldar the better!

    I think your decision to play the Exarch is absolutely spot on and the best way to deal with the leadership and the lack of potential to develop, as you say. Spot on.

    By all means ask me about lore, I will chapter and verse it as much as I am able (ie tell you if it's official) and tell you when it's not. Because there are huge holes in the lore. :)

    I guess my concerns can be summed up like this: the point of playing an Eldar is to explore what it means to be an Eldar. So long as we get any romance as part of this, informed by this, and not "We use Eldar because they have actual girls in their army, so womance" then I am OK with it, because then it makes sense :) After all, there may not be many baby Eldar, but they have to come from somewhere or they'd have actually died out by now. Oh. And one more thing. Romance does not necessarily equal babies.

    I don't hate romance. I just have standards! :D Did anyone spot the potential romance between Kythriel and Etrigen? Well did you punk? :D



    *it's filthy heresy. :p
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  3. Jorimel Jorimel Well-Known Member

    Yes, they do not follow the Path and thus can have more personal freedom. Although this means that they do not have the protection of the Path and can find themselves falling into extremes of behaviour and even falling to Chaos more easily because of this.

    Some of them follow charismatic leaders and then I would say they probably have their own code, though there's not much from GW about this :)
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  4. Uriel1339 Uriel1339 Lord of Posts

    Somewhat.... It's... Somewhat complicated. Corsairs are simple Eldar on the Path of the Outcast, like Rangers & Pathfinders. Thus they are a bit more free from social pressure from the Craftworlds. However they have their own traditions, rules, etc. Like you know, IRL the Pirate Codex existed amongst the Caribbean Pirates and all that stuff. So yes they have more freedom but basic rules still apply to them, and also not all is good.

    The lack of Aspect Warriors for example means they don't have the protection of the War-Mask which includes but is not limited to guilt. The War-Mask allows an Eldar for example to slaughter enemy-children without remorse, if that would be necessary (for example because the kids have weapons and try to defend their home). Whereas Corsairs are like Guardians and have to deal with the consequences as a living, conscious, sentient being.

    All has it's pro & cons. Even in fictional universes.


    @Jorimel - Even though I never touched a Codex you must admit I know plenty of lore :p I just have an easier time being flexible with it, just like Uriel Ventris & Idaeus III are with the Codex of Guilliman. Why else you think my username is Uriel? :D
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  5. Valonox Valonox Preacher

    I would follow the path of a Shadow Spectre can I do that?
  6. @Jorimel

    Well... basically, the romance will be up to the player. Like, if you wish, you can have a romantic partner before the RP, or gain one In-RP. I think I will allow you guys to ask me for such, but won't force anyone into romance if you don't want.
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  7. Jorimel Jorimel Well-Known Member

    In this specific instance you are entirely correct :p Which is Jorimelese for "yes that's right" :D

    For once though you say it in way more words than I do :D


    You know the lore as found in Lexicanum, the Wiki and 1d4chan - which means you don't have the means to distinguish between the lore and fanon. And that's why you are a tabloid historian :p

    If I'm not flexible with the lore, why do I spend so long and take such care over making lore to fill the many holes GW have left us to make sure you can have a complete world to play in?
  8. Jorimel Jorimel Well-Known Member

    That's cool :) I am down with that.

    What do you feel about Rangers? I wouldn't want to waste the chance to explore an Aspect life, but I thought I'd ask. I miss Liriasol.
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  9. As a PC, or a persistent NPC, be it ally or lover or both?
  10. Uriel1339 Uriel1339 Lord of Posts

    Don't dare putting me in the hole of Wikia & 4chan users. Those two sites are straight out.... I don't even want to write the words here. And I was not saying you in particular, I was referring to other individuals. And I usually know what is Fanon and what is not. However I often speak in what I want to believe, not what is - that is a whole different piece of cake.

    Other than that, even if I read a Codex there is no guarantee I remember all or a lot of it, I have read all 6 Ultramarine books from McNeill's Omnibi and Fall of Damnos and I only remember the main things, not every single detail. Because reading is not my learning type it's Audio-Visual (which is why I remember things from Movies, TV Shows and Games more than books)

    Anyway..... Let's just focus on the RP at hand. I will let you handle the Eldar questions unless directly asked since you are simply more knowledgeable on that field.

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