Play Chaos as main, and also enjoy playing Orc a lot. I'm not seeing any underpowering.... Now in melee....where all the fuss was...you actually have to play good...instead of just spamming power atacks with electric choppa.... Burnt chopp is still a thing.... I notice that sure orcs don't have meltas....true... but..... You do have a spam of rokkits that does the trick if the team wants to... On a personal experience, you have 2 orcs with rokkits on vehicle duty...and that's that... The difference is that rokkit is also infantry viable...compared to the melta... As for plasma.....orcs have the deff cannon or whatever is called...and the deff plasma...so you don't have blasts and auto in the same gun....but you do have the options available.... Regarding HP, even with a few tier 3 upgrades it's shit easy to get over 260hp....without much lp costs....so they are still pretty tough... Regarding ranged weapons, general sluga options...it's pretty easy to outdps other races...even with regular shootah. So we can't really talk about orcs beeing underpowered....Just takes more effort now....from the time that it was a simple choppa spam
So we should have to commit two players to a job that one person can do on the other factions? And we do it way slower. No. This makes no sense. Melta is decent against infantry now also. You've clearly not used the Kannon Deffgun if you think it is comparable to the Plasma Cannon. This is a very ignorant statement. Comparing those weapons is like comparing a revolver to a bow and arrow. HP I don't think is a big issue. We can't really compete at long range, we just don't have the weapons. Since the latest patch we can't really compete in melee unless we use the chain choppa which I think is stupid. Short - Medium range we are as strong as ever.
Because it's too much of a burden having 2 players on tank duty...»? You know how many fire dragons eldar use?they are like everywhere...why? because smart team... If your team or yourself can't bother to have anyone on tank duty....woah excuse me.... And if you say you can't compete in melee.....clearly you must be doing something wrong. Even after this patch....with a stinky regular choppa...you can still spam power atacks and GG melee... Or the typical burnt choppa. Rokkit launcher have a better explosion than the plasma gun, and the deff kannon is your plasma cannon. It couldnt be exactly like it because orcs don't have plasma cannons, but it is your explosion weapon....Also the shot is much more stealthier at ranged...where you can see plasma cannons from afar.... Plasma deffguns are good at medium short range... So are deffguns..so are most orcs weapons... Yes you cant excell at long range...Because everyone knows orcs are marksmen....
Ok so instead of asking for a fix to our d-bash and more balanced weapons we should abuse choppa strong attack animation. Damn good suggestion.
I think Ork are mostly okayish still. The problem lies morein the weapons and abilities of other factions than it does with us. Plasma is too easy to spam for defense, AC's too easy to spam for defense, Meltas too easy to suicide run into vehicles. I can't suicide my Klaw into vehicles, takes too long. So does rokkits and meltabombs. Maps are also a problem. The tired refrain of "just keep driving!" is not always very feasible. Maps are too tiny, too many stupid roadblocks not allowing us full driving freedom.
I think that Stats wise we're in a great position for our Health, Toughness, speed, etc. Our issue however is more so now that because the Devs nerfed a lot of our weapons/we're missing things still. We're a bit gimped now. Before we had things to keep us on par, and you guys had effective counters; HB emplacements, Plasma Cannon Shots, Power Sword, OP Tac Knives.
Klaws are absolutely useless now. Any ranged class can just roll and kite us all day. It's laughable. You clearly don't understand me, not sure if it's a language thing or something else. 1 Fire Dragon can do the job of 2 Rokkit users way easier and quicker - that isn't balanced, it's broken. Perhaps we would have way more Rokkit users if they weren't an awful weapon. What you're suggesting is that Orks need twice as many players on vehicle duty. That's fucking idiotic. Hmm, it's strange, I have used the Klaw exclusively in melee since I was able. Last patch I could compete in melee, this patch I can't. It must be me though, obviously. If you think that Orks can still spam any power attacks you're completely wrong. You are still making fundamental mistakes here. Have you ever used the Rokkit launcher? Or the Kannon Deffgun? Because it sounds like you haven't. "The shot is stealthier at ranged"? Are you for real? The Plasma Cannon shot is virtually instant most of the time and it can be fired multiple times without reloading or managing heat, unlike the Kannon Deffgun. The Plasma Cannon is a flat out superior weapon. Right so we can't shoot well and we shouldn't be able to compete at anything other than short-medium range. Perhaps we should destroy other factions in melee.....because everyone knows Orks are the most brutal melee race...
Never have I ever come across a less convincing troll. " I play ORCS too, bro" "I use the burnt choppa and the cannon defcannon. " "our rockets are not to be ignored! " Spamming fast attack was broken, but literally no one here buys you have played game one as an "orc".
Who said anything about fast attacks?.....The only complaint there was, was about electro choppa power atacks jesus, you can't even read....how would i expect you to be able to play orcs as it is.... is it so hard to create 1 character for each faction....and have played each of those said factions...experiencing the things for yourself, and realizing it's not as bad as most whinings say it is....? It's like the other member said: Orcs right now are Okeyish.... There is stuff to be fixed obviously....but they are far from underpowered.
