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All da Cheese - Vent post

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Abatos, May 10, 2017.

  1. Abatos Abatos Subordinate

    I'm gonna lay out all the cheese I see from all factions, cause it's bothering me and I need to vent.


    Orks

    Ace dakka : It's like the autocannon, but without a burn dot.

    Def cannon : Insta kill. Although you need a lot more luck than skill to use it. It also has a reload plus a charge to fire but you can still hide behind cover until the last second to fire so it's still cheese.

    Burny choppa : The only good melee weapon orks have. (besides the Klaw.)

    Not the Klaw : It's not cheese, if you disagree than all the fists are just as cheese. They're all in a good spot right now.

    Zapp gun : This goes for the las cannon too. It's become more of an anti infantry weapon with it's faster lock on speeds. Shoud've kept it where it was before its buff.


    LSM/Chaos

    Muh Bolter! : Hey kids, here's a gun with high damage perfect accuracy, and hardly any recoil! Lets pray they don't realize orkz are garbage at range.

    Plasma cannon : it's a lot better than where it was, but it can still insta kill, and it gets abused on defence maps.

    Grav cannon : It's not really cheese but people still complain about it because it's really annoying against melee and when used properly against vehicles it's a damn nightmare.

    Apothecary light attack : swish swish swish, I can move faster with fast attacks than you can run, get reckt!

    Mark of nurgle : Way to cheap for what you get. Compare it to ork or LSM wargear and it's about half the cost for comparable items.

    Auto cannon/ Abaddons grace .. or was it disgrace : Yay a 2-3 hit kill cannon with high accuracy and range. Sometimes you get lit on fire too. XD

    las cannons : go read the zap gun bit.


    Eldar

    The moment you've all been waiting for.

    Double Melta bombs : hey lets give these gangly pointy ears an instant vehicle kill load out, cause that's a great idea.

    Single shot sperm launcher : I don't know what's it's actually called, but dark reapers like to use them to insta kill everything, it's like the plasma cannon, but more sparkly.

    Lag : that's right, eldar cheese lag. If it wasn't hard enough to hit them without lag, it's nigh impossible with lag as they teleport several meters every few seconds.

    Lawn mower porn : You know what this, and I know as well as you that it's supposedly getting fixed soon. I wonder how eldars stats will change once it's fixed?....

    Sun rifles : F your sun rifles, like, really hard.



    Alright, I think that's it, if I forgot anything be sure to leave a salty comment about it below. See ya. XD
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  2. Construct_ Thraxus First Blood!

    Somebody needs to introduce you to the Ghost Choppa <3 40% Lifesteel

    ^ I don't think anyone has ever died to a Sun Rifle in the entire history of EC, but my god are they annoying.

    ^ Otherwise known as Abbadon's Crutch / Auto Crutch. (Heavy Bolter is ALMOST as bad)

    ^ /Cheesymode LMB spam - The nerf is coming people, its gonna hurt. Adapt or suffer. (preferably suffer)
  3. AXONATOR Recruit

    Surprised that necrotic chainsword wasn't in here lashsword too
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  4. Catnium Catnium Well-Known Member

    You ppl'z always forget that MoN is just 1 slot.
    CHAOS NEEDS TO BUY 2 WARGEAR SLOTS FOR DEFENCE STATS WHERE SLM CLOWNS AND ORK DORKS ONLY HAVE TO USE 1 YOU DUMB PIECES OF SQUICK EXCREMENT!!
    YOU CAN NOT COMPARE ITEMS 1 FOR 1 WHEN 1 FACTION HAS 2 WARGEAR SLOTS TO FILL and the OTHER faction ONLY 1

    you know wats funny ? adding LP costs of the 2 slots ends up being 360 LP for chaos
    What does a shoota golden gob cost again ? 360 ?
    what's the best in slot armor upgrade for SLM cost ? something like 350 for a non vet ?
    yeah .. ballance .. its right infront of ur eyes mate! but because ur servo skulls in this community are all too small you cry baby's can't seem to think beyond 1 wargear slot at a time huh.

    BIG PICTURE!!
    LOOK AT IIIIEEEETTTTT!!!!
  5. Cydonia Cydonia Well-Known Member

    "Yeah, all these good things factions have? I want them ruined."
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  6. Drake De Molina Drake_De_Molina Steam Early Access

    Complaining about sunrifle? wow.
    Someone had a seizure during a fight against Eldar.
  7. Spookums MasterSpookums Well-Known Member

    It's not cheese, i just think it's a dick move, but there's a particular bolter build and this really fast back and forth side stepping I've notied people doing as SM's. And it's annoying, because you can't hit them (Kind of the point of them doing it) but they can hit you perfectly fine, and i find it weird how fast they can move like that.
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  8. Remo RemoSupremo Confessor

    I got to "Orks are bad at range" and almost spit my water everywhere.
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  9. RageScreama RageScreama Well-Known Member

    Hey guys fun ork thing to do: use a scope on a shoota! Its actually not shit even at medium ranges and you can just toggle it off for short range. With a 2x scope th recoil reducion grip and a muzzle brake you will outshoot everything at range thats not a braced heavy (and sometimes you still do!) Or a max range stalker bolter.

    I made a 4x scope shoota loadout and omg...I was sniping the marines trying to run from pegasus B to C just cackling like a mad man as they tried to pin me down only to get full auto head shot to death at like 50+ meters XD
  10. Catnium Catnium Well-Known Member


    What you described is something we old internet dwellers are more than familiar with it's called net code and latency .
    Their movements are actually exaggerated from your point of view , on their screen they are just taking really small steps.
    you see what you see on your screen is just an illusion it's not really what's really going on there is a lot of magic being done by very complex math in the background usually on the server side to allow people from all over the world to still play a real time game despite them all having very different connection speeds often ranging into the 500 milliseconds of difference because information still needs to travel all the way from their place to the server to you and back to the server then back to them etc etc.
    It's not a game mechanic it is literally an effect caused by how the internet works and it is not exclusive to this game. every game has this.
    You'll basically see him move until the server finally decides where he actually is for your point of view.
    But here is the trick , he doesn't stop moving .. so all you see is a guy darting left and right all the time.
    while is really just 2 stepping a small dance with out hardly even moving all that much.

    Try it it works wonders.
    they even made a grip for it .. the one that reduces movement penalty's =P

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