This. Painboy preset gets healing grenades, Apothecary doesn't. As far as the pistol, I'm fully aware that the default Stormboy/Slugga pistol isn't the only one with auto lock (or whatever you want to call it), but it's VASTLY superior to the equivalent Raptor/Assult bolt pistol. The regular Ork pistol is fine, but the rapid fire one, while not broken in itself, is far above any other Ork or Marine pistol. Eldar... are a completely different ball game in this regard and can't be easily compared.
Eldar / CSM / Ork (in that order) have it easy compared to LSM who are effectively the same as playing Nightmare mode on Doom right now (with Eldar on the other end at "I'm too young to die". Those that deny this are just trying to hide from the nerf hammer. Its coming people. Deny it all you want, but you'd better expect it, and prepare for it or suffer when it knocks you off your easymode high perch
So let me get this straight you started of on LSM got all the way to rank 5 learned the game and learned how to play all the maps and how to "counter" the other classes or what to do in what situation after that you went on another faction started over but with all your knowledge gained and fought the same exact factions but to add on that now you fought against your main faction that you learned inside and out while playing.... Mate I'm just gona say it like this if you didn't find it easier on other factions to start off after you learned everything I would call you a bad player....that is only gear carried but hey that's just what I got from this thread
Oi! I'z play an Ork anz we'z broken still. (yes the choppa axe & electrified axe power attacks are too fast, I agree) We'z don't even 'ave a melta! da slugga is much slowa den da tin 'umie pistol an' less accurate (also its the power gork & mork gave to orks that if they believe it will work, it will in the way it's intended. Read the lore ya git.) so etz balanced in dat aspect.
As I've said before in this very thread, this isn't relevant to what I'm saying. LSM are harder to play because they have vastly inferior hardware at both low and mid levels. Haven't cracked 30k boxes yet so I'll leave aside high level judgements. This is especially pronounced it, but is not exclusive to, low levels. I've played LSM far more than any other faction, and my custom thousand point loadouts are just barely as effective as the base presets of the other factions. (Okay, varies by class, but...) I'm not just comparing "it felt hard starting out as LSM, but starting as other factions is easier after 5 ranks of time invested". That's true as well, but it's not the point.
Orks presets are good, high hp, high acc Eldar presets are just overpower (fire dragon preset and dire avenger) CSM their melee dude ugh LSM The Emperor's will Kappa Just wait boyz patch comming soon very soon
I do agree that most factions have a slight buff, but at the same time just use teamwork and coordination and a bit of luck to win a battle. If you can work with your squads in game then you have the advantage, also i think that even though we have it harder than most factions at the moment we also have some of the largest and most veteran guilds in EC who have been around for a very long time. So let the legions lead the charge and let teamwork get us victory until they manage it out a bit.
Leme traduce you this thread. I served the emperor for two centuries to notice I'd be better off being an orc...or heretic...or eldar.
97 damage per round out to 100m or 133 damage in your face with 130 penetration, it pretty much negates Relic Armor + and then theres the Dot that makes it a 2 round shot kill wep. 28 damage per round at 100m out, or 38 in your face at 80 penetration and no dot. I don't see how they compare, except that they both fire slowly.
