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ADAD strafing cheese

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Njord-Halfhand, May 10, 2017.

  1. Pony salt is the best salt.
  2. Dauntless Tyrium Steam Early Access

    ADAD strafing, in my opinion, is just another technical skill people get over time of playing shooters. Its like proper macro in most RTS games and energy-retention in Air Flight Simulators. Once you figure out how to do it you can normally transfer that over to most other games of the kind. It annoys the crap out of me when I forget and get hammered by someone (when I do play my ranged classes) but I cant deny that they are more skilled than me in remembering.

    In reality, this can all be boiled down to practicing and getting better than the next player. My whole philosophy in life is to not only become better than who I am right now (personally) but also to try and learn to become better than the next guy. Its competitive, yes, but it sure as hell works to motivate me to learn what I can and not sit on my butt complaining that better players beat me because a mechanic exists that I don't want to learn about.
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  3. Havoc ComradeHavoc Well-Known Member

    Latency abuse, in my opinion, is just another technical skill people get over time of playing shooters. It's like proper lag switching. Once you figure out how to do it you can normally transfer that over to most other games of the kind. It annoys the crap out of me when I forget to lagswitch, and get hammered by someone who plays using unintended bugs and mechanics (when I do play my ranged classes) but I can't deny that they are more skilled than me in remembering to abuse said unintentional broken mechanics.

    In reality, this can all be boiled down to using macro/strafe software, abusing poor interpolation, artificially throttling your connection, and getting better than the next player who's also abusing unintended bugs. My whole philosophy in life is to not only become better than who I am right now (personally) but also to try and learn to become better than the next guy in abusing unintended glitches and mechanics in videogames for an advantage over a person playing it the way it was intended to be played. Its competitive and unfair, yes, but it sure as hell works to motivate me to learn what I can and not sit on my butt complaining that better players beat me because a abusable unintended mechanic exists that I don't want to abuse because I'm playing the game in the way it was designed to be played.
  4. Dauntless Tyrium Steam Early Access

    So what your saying is that using external elements to alter the performance of the game is the same as using a game mechanic that is already present in the game? If you are going to mock me than you better have an IQ above driveway gravel.
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  5. Unbiased Unbias3d Steam Early Access

    Salt, in my opinion, is just another technical skill people get over time of playing shooters. It's like proper complaining. Once you figure out how to do it you can normally transfer that over to most other games of the kind. It annoys the crap out of me when I forget to complain, and get hammered by someone who is saltier than me. (when I do play my ranged classes) but I can't deny that they are more skilled than me in remembering to complain and be salty.

    In reality, this can all be boiled down to crying, bitching, being butthurt, and complaining harder than the next player who's also spewing salt on the forums. My whole philosophy in life is to not only become saltier than who I am right now (personally) but also to try and learn to edit other peoples' posts on the forums because I disagree with them. Its unfair, yes, but it sure as hell works to motivate me to sit on my butt complaining that better players beat me, so they're probably cheating.
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  6. You either like cheese or you dont. I find it funny though how many say ADAD cheese is skill based and apparently GREAT for any shooter. Bunny hopping and firing is skill based too, should we have it in EC? Is it a good fit and would it be great for immersion and the game in general to see our Space Marines bunny hopping around the game world?

    As far as ADAD I do it plenty because it's the current Meta. I do it but i find it utterly ridiculous. I opt to weigh in on the side that would rather not have silly mechanics in our game.

    Out of the two which better fits the 40K universe and our game?

    1. The Astartes shooting in controlled, disciplined bursts from cover or that's advancing slow and steady towards their target firing focused and controlled bursts.

    2. The Astartes that's having some sort of Grand Mal seizure as they doing some herky jerky mini zig zag motion across the room firing full auto and scoring head shots throughout their seizure, while out shooting their Astartes opponent(s) that is/are firing from cover.

    If you think ADAD is great for game play you're fully endorsing option 2.
  7. Chuffy Chuffster Deacon

    OK, that's enough forum for me today.
  8. Asyran Eldritch Arkhona Vanguard

    Brent himself said that Eldar should ADAD. Its not cheese, its an intended game mechanic.

    You saying otherwise means you either can't do it and are lashing out, or you have trouble aiming at them.
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  9. Catnium Catnium Well-Known Member

    if AD strafe gets removed or somehow made unviable than TTK should also be increased else this game will be nothing but campers with its low TTK, client side hit detection, crappy latency and hitscan weaponry.
    and how will it effect melee's ability to dodge and weave bullets ?.

    lol LSM already cry enough about how LSM are not as though as they should be blah blah blah.

  10. Well Brent's not here any more and WE are paying for and playing the game, NOT Brent. Your L2play comments are unnecessary. Being forced to ignore proper marksmanship techniques in order to "cheese" to compete is total horseshit.

    So you like cheesy game mechanics. Fine by me. I'm just saying not everyone else feels the same.
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