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A thread that is neither helpful nor needed.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Zael, Mar 27, 2018.

  1. Proteus Lychoro ProteusVM Forum Beta Tester

    it is nothing left to talk about

    the guys doing it are qa and are not being paid extra as far as i know - not that they've told me.
  2. Catnium Catnium Well-Known Member

    Maybe they should have stopped listening to the wrong group of players for their "reballances" than.

    If they'd listen to the non autistic screachers.. we would have gotten rid of shit like smart pistols and bolter porn 2 years ago.
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  3. Proteus Lychoro ProteusVM Forum Beta Tester

    if you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, you should probably just keep quiet - literally everyone even amongst those 'autistic screachers' has been telling them to get rid of smart weapons, but they won't. not even to mention revamps to the bolter since almost all of 'em agree that its way too accurate on hipfire.

    the developers don't give a fuck about who gives them feedback before implementing it, the only difference between the people they listen to and the people they don't is that the ones they aren't listening to are making long winded, garbage, larp filled forum posts built on nothing but misunderstandings and anecdotes while the ones they listen to are using math, statistics and test results in order to argue their points - when you suggest that melee should one-shot from behind or that shit like this:



    is fine, then they tend to put you on the 'daft and LARP fueled' list and ignore the nonsense you spew.

    but sure, if you want the balance to be dictated by retards who can't even comprehend strafing so they nickname it ADAD and call it an exploit, you're free to push for that in a game with developers as daft as you.

    all that being said, it barely matters anymore, the game could have been re-balanced properly had the developers listened to the revamp people like @Slough_Monster and @Oan-Mkoll were pushing, instead they left the game to dwindle until they no longer have the developers to make any real changes to the many issues plaguing the game, least of which being bolter porn.
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  4. Catnium Catnium Well-Known Member

    Did you fix orks ? ...no
    Did you fix Eldar ?... no
    Did you fix the pile of DNU wargear ? ...no


    what did you do..?
    test 5 man game mode ? yes
    Rework bolters for the 500th time ? yes


    gtfo dude..
    you just play wanna be game designer for 1 faction
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  5. Krayt Krayt Preacher

    its always appreciated when people talk about something they have no clue about
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  6. Proteus Lychoro ProteusVM Forum Beta Tester

    I don't have the figures, nor do I care to collect them from the hundreds of messages that myself and others have messaged the developers via forum PMs, the forums themselves and discord. I'd actually reckon it might be nearing a thousand at this point - a thousand well detailed and documented suggestions.

    As for Orks, Eldar and unusable wargear - @Oan-Mkoll alone has made literally hundreds of suggestions on this front, going so far as to write up a complete game document for basically every weapon and wargear item in the game which he sent to the developers for.. practically zero change, they didn't have the motivation nor the team to do anything even as far as two years ago.

    I can only tell you with 100% certainty what I have done, I won't speak for my comrades who also have equally detailed pasts in terms of sending feedback and offering solutions to issues with the game. What I have done can be simplified into the following.

    Around 200 suggestions regarding pretty much everything, from reworks to Ork movement delays such as rolling off a ledge causing a pause to banshee leap attacks, reworks to over-performing and under-performing ranged weapons on every faction, proposals for the removal of I-frames, reworks to banshee scream, nade tricks and rollex dating back over a year, solutions to add a flamer weapon to EC, reworks to vehicles and map design to remove the transport meta from all factions and so much more, you can even look through my post history if you're so inclined to see dozens of the threads I made here, with the remainder being via PMs and Discord DMs.

    How much of this has made it into the game? probably about ten of them and even then only partially, despite your claims of the developers being in 'elitists' pockets. Even well detailed, documented and justified suggestions barely got added even way back when the game still had a development team, because the developers refused to commit to any major changes until things got rough, and now they don't have the manpower to make the changes.

    So, for you to suggest all I've done is test 5v5 and suggest changes to the bolter is pretty laughable. I do appreciate you demonstrating just how clueless you are though.
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  7. What you didn't hear I get paid per closed thread, angry player or hateful message I get on my profile. All part of the plan I just made up.

    So lets address this post of yours:

    "You know what we should add? Imperial Guard!"

    If you want to pay the million dollars for the rights to Astra Militarum feel free. But do remember they are just as squishy as Eldar and seeing as your not going to get a lot of models work done without a lot more money I hope you have some rather big pockets there after you shell out for the rights in the first place.

    "You know what we should add? Hats!"

    Last I checked they have helmets it's one of the customization items that are currently in game and if you play LSM or CSM you get a number of options. Not so much for the other races as most only get one or two options but they still exist. And if your talking about TF2 style silly hats forget it GW would never allow it. However there are players waiting for the Workshop to go live to submit various helmet designs they have made.

    "Get rid of I-frames!"

    I think this is the first time we have ever agreed... Is this the end of the world? Personally I think when you roll instead of I frames that let you roll on top of nades and ignore lazcannon shots I think you should get a dmg resist and only have any frames that would keep your character from getting stuck. If I had an RTC for every time I toss a grenade at a marine and just watched the roll physically on top of it and walk away without a scratch I would have more RTC than I ever needed. The official word is the I frames exist to keep a player from getting stuck though and I have a feeling that it would take a lot of programming to change that.

    Anyway there your questions have been answered and if the thread remains civil I will leave this one open. That's not an open invitation to come in and try to get this locked if anyone starts Ill just remove you instead of the thread. Remember Asheru is watching... always watching.
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  8. Zael Zael Well-Known Member

    UAT is not the game. If it's not in the game, then it's not in the game.

    What makes you think that bE will actually put the stuff on UAT into the game? bE has continuously backtracked and lied so often over the years, that it's simply ludicrous to take anything they do or say at face-value.

    If it's not in the game, then it's not in the game. Any other approach is just an invitation for more disappointment.
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  9. Proteus Lychoro ProteusVM Forum Beta Tester

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    This hurts more.
  10. NoobMister NoobMister Steam Early Access

    I would like to, put you limited who can view your profile >_>

    Shame really, I was curious to see what you had written, and if they were any topics I took part in (and probably disagreed with you too).

    With the inclusion of the Steam Workshop, I would honestly say at this point bE should just let the community build the bits they want, rather than waiting for them (as incredibly unlikely as that is)

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